Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?
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@Cyclops Why only a play-off between Fiji, Tonga and Samoa? Why treat them differently to the rest? There's no reason to treat Japan more favourably. They may haven beaten Fiji this year, but that doesn't mean they'll do that again next year.
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@Stargazer said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
@Cyclops Why only a play-off between Fiji, Tonga and Samoa? Why treat them differently to the rest? There's no reason to treat Japan more favourably.
I can think of one.
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@Stargazer said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
@Cyclops Why only a play-off between Fiji, Tonga and Samoa? Why treat them differently to the rest? There's no reason to treat Japan more favourably. They may haven beaten Fiji this year, but that doesn't mean they'll do that again next year.
Yeah four way play off works too. Top two teams go through. Commercially a much harder sell though. Logistically harder too since you don't know until the last minute the full schedule. One team would be hard to manage, two teams even more so.
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@antipodean said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
I can think of one.
What was it 60 million people watched the Scotland game?
In terms of TRCs future it will be interesting to see if the discussions around the World League drive any changes re: US/Japan. It seems all SH unions were in favour of the proposal, I wonder if the economics make sense without the home unions?
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@rotated They won't need support from the home unions for creating - for example - a second tier to the TRC (with promotion/relegation). I'd favour that. TRC - four nations (NZ, AUS, RSA, ARG to start with), second tier TRC - four nations (Japan, Samoa, Fiji, Tonga). Keep the USA out of it. An odd number of nations complicates scheduling etc.
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@rotated said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
@antipodean said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
I can think of one.
What was it 60 million people watched the Scotland game?
In terms of TRCs future it will be interesting to see if the discussions around the World League drive any changes re: US/Japan. It seems all SH unions were in favour of the proposal, I wonder if the economics make sense without the home unions?
If they don't want it, what are the chances of starting one up ourselves? Perhaps a second tier RC comp with USA, Japan, Fiji, maybe another PI team and Uruguay for starters, with the opportunity for the winner to play some games in the main comp?
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@Stargazer said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
@rotated They won't need support from the home unions for creating - for example - a second tier to the TRC (with promotion/relegation). I'd favour that. TRC - four nations (NZ, AUS, RSA, ARG to start with), second tier TRC - four nations (Japan, Samoa, Fiji, Tonga). Keep the USA out of it. An odd number of nations complicates scheduling etc.
Obviously they wouldn't need the home unions support. The question is wether the economics of the southern hemisphere portion only of World League is better than the status quo. Maybe something can be salvaged stemming from those discussions?
Keep USA as they can drive revenue which we can participate in. Limited interest in the islands participating unless they can drive revenue too.
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@Higgins said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?:
@canefan Brazil are coming on too. Didn't they give the Maori team a good run for their money (particularly in the forwards) a year or two back?
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@Stargazer said in Can Japan and Sun Wolves survive without home support?: An odd number of nations complicates scheduling etc.
An odd number of teams in TRC could actually work out well to stagger the byes so there is rugby each weekend.
I'd work backwards from the fixtures I want to see. For example, having renamed mysef Brent Impey, my goal for the next 3 years is:
- play 2 x RSA, 2 x AUS, 1 x ARG, 1 x other (JPN) per year
- instead of 2 x RSA, 2 x AUS, 2 x ARG as now.
Take one Aus game and one Bok game out of TRC but still played as Bledisloe and Freedom Cup matches.
TRC is then a round-robin like the 6N (or, with 5 teams, like the old 5 Nations)
Or, if you wanted to drop the Bledisloe to 2 games - or even one - for a particular year, then there is an opportunity for an inbound or outbound test tour with the Boks, Pumas, Fiji, or whoever.
