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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    is there even a chance he might not leave, ridiculous if there is. He should be shown the door, last night highlighted so many errors in the Aussie game, some half decent tactics and Aussie had a good shot at winning last night.

    Wasnt there talk he should go prior to 2015?

    He said if he didn't win the cup he would go, several times. So he's gone.

    Although I remember Foolau saying if he was every hurting rugby he'd also go....

    Lying convicts

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    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Why is Englands game plan devoid of usingb2 of their weapons: Watson and Tuilagi? The latter was pretty much anonymous for most of the game.

    Because he was playing out of position on offence and covering both inside and outside centre on defence.

    Should have gotten a double win bonus.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

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    @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    This team could be so much more than what it is.

    If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

    Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

    Beale was equal proportion the solution and the problem.

    The story of his rugby career.

    A better coach would have harnessed him or jettisoned him.

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    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

    Of course.

    But that's not why Australia lost.

    He did his job and whilst slow, was pretty much error free.

    Others gifted the match to England.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    This team could be so much more than what it is.

    If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

    Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

    Beale was equal proportion the solution and the problem.

    The story of his rugby career.

    A better coach would have harnessed him or jettisoned him.

    Fair call. Raw talent that has been wasted to an extent.

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    Cheika will go, of that there is very little doubt. We are also losing (through retirement) Genia, Pocock, Kepu.

    The future is pretty bright. The new coach will inherit a talented squad, depth in the pack, and an ability to put good teams away when they get it right.

    A few relatively minor tactical adjustments (eg. not running it off our own fucking line), and I think things will start to turn around.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

    Of course.

    If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

    But that's not why Australia lost.

    But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

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    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

    Of course.

    If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

    But that's not why Australia lost.

    But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

    😂😂😂

    Because the White in shining armour made such a difference

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    @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Cheika will go, of that there is very little doubt. We are also losing (through retirement) Genia, Pocock, Kepu.

    The future is pretty bright. The new coach will inherit a talented squad, depth in the pack, and an ability to put good teams away when they get it right.

    A few relatively minor tactical adjustments (eg. not running it off our own fucking line), and I think things will start to turn around.

    Still got Hooper signed for four more years tho

    But yes, a coach open to change and pragmatism will make a massive difference. Cheika is like pocock, a one trick pony.

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    Eddie?

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Eddie?

    I think he'd be great

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    I'd like some sign of reform, in terms of aligning national interests from the professional level up.

    Our depth is still rubbish.

    Cheika has to go for picking Genia if nothing else

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    I'm starting to think you might not be a Genia fan, Nick

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Our depth is still rubbish.

    In some positions, but not all. Our depth at prop has never been better, and our backrow stocks are good too.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

    Of course.

    If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

    But that's not why Australia lost.

    But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

    😂😂😂

    Because the White in shining armour made such a difference

    I doubt I’m the only one who’s noticed Aussies wanting White yanked whenhe starts a game so Genia can get the backline moving and the same thing in reverse when Genia starts .

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

    Of course.

    If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

    But that's not why Australia lost.

    But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

    😂😂😂

    Because the White in shining armour made such a difference

    The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    I'd like some sign of reform, in terms of aligning national interests from the professional level up.

    Our depth is still rubbish.

    Losing Kerevi won't help. Two of the three locks from last night as well. There's a paucity of halfbacks too. If Joe Powell is the next best, things aren't so rosy.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

    Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

    If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

    He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

    Of course.

    If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

    But that's not why Australia lost.

    But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

    😂😂😂

    Because the White in shining armour made such a difference

    The fucking irony. Some criticism of Genia and you're running to his rescue. No one said White had a good game, just that he passes quicker from the ruck than Genia does and if you're looking to play with a high tempo as Australia did, that's what you want.

    Australia lost because in critical situations when players were in space and possession despite Genia's shit service they

    Lost the ball in contact
    Lost the ball through poor handling
    Passed rubbishly to an England player
    Kicked rubbishly to an England player

    Australia had more than enough ball and territory to beat England.

    They fucked up too many chances.

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