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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @Chris-B Pffft, we now know that all that money was being diverted into a secret slush fund for a later date marked “All Black Props and Loosies”.

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    @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    We've talked about this quite a lot this season amoungst our season ticket group.

    Essentially we have 7 season tickets in a group, most NPC games only 3 or 4 of us show up and it's bloody hard to give away the seats.

    I reckon all NPC games should be held on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, I doubt it's going to make a huge difference to the numbers watching on TV if you play 2 games at the same time. Afternoon rugby is a far better schedule and better for those with young families.

    I agree with that in-principle and it worked well back in the day for the VFL/AFL here in OZ with all games on Saturday and the one live TV match was built as the “match of the round”. Crowds were excellent and it did build the foundations of the great tribalism that footy has.

    But if the comp is heavily reliant on TV money to survive then the TV stations are going to want as much content as possible and being able to advertise ‘Live’ content is all part of their marketing strategy.

    What difference that makes for viewers is arguable, but if they are forking out big coin they will want it accessible as possible.

    Eek, no way that would work ... do people not remember pre-pro rugby and the one game a week on TV One. Although I do understand where you're coming from.

    Also, haven't we been bemoaning the lack of crowds in the NPC for about the past 10 years. Most teams now work within the limitations of the competition (lower crowds. x share of the tv money) and budget accordingly. If we can ensure all teams break even (hopefully) and NZR are happy for the comp itself to run at a loss (assuming it does) and is propped up by the ABs and Super then I don't see an issue with that. It's a cost of the business (the business being NZ rugby as a whole).

    I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting to going back to that, but if crowd numbers are to be improved then the time of game and what day it is on are massive factors. Thursday and Friday nights at 7:30 doesn’t really work for young families. The Friday night games probably don’t attract young adults either.

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    We've talked about this quite a lot this season amoungst our season ticket group.

    Essentially we have 7 season tickets in a group, most NPC games only 3 or 4 of us show up and it's bloody hard to give away the seats.

    I reckon all NPC games should be held on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, I doubt it's going to make a huge difference to the numbers watching on TV if you play 2 games at the same time. Afternoon rugby is a far better schedule and better for those with young families.

    I agree with that in-principle and it worked well back in the day for the VFL/AFL here in OZ with all games on Saturday and the one live TV match was built as the “match of the round”. Crowds were excellent and it did build the foundations of the great tribalism that footy has.

    But if the comp is heavily reliant on TV money to survive then the TV stations are going to want as much content as possible and being able to advertise ‘Live’ content is all part of their marketing strategy.

    What difference that makes for viewers is arguable, but if they are forking out big coin they will want it accessible as possible.

    Eek, no way that would work ... do people not remember pre-pro rugby and the one game a week on TV One. Although I do understand where you're coming from.

    Also, haven't we been bemoaning the lack of crowds in the NPC for about the past 10 years. Most teams now work within the limitations of the competition (lower crowds. x share of the tv money) and budget accordingly. If we can ensure all teams break even (hopefully) and NZR are happy for the comp itself to run at a loss (assuming it does) and is propped up by the ABs and Super then I don't see an issue with that. It's a cost of the business (the business being NZ rugby as a whole).

    I don’t think anyone is seriously suggesting to going back to that, but if crowd numbers are to be improved then the time of game and what day it is on are massive factors. Thursday and Friday nights at 7:30 doesn’t really work for young families. The Friday night games probably don’t attract young adults either.

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

    My 17 and 19 year old nieces go to games quite often. That's balanced out by the fact they go to Manawatu games.

    I guess the unions would prefer Saturday and Sunday matches whereas TV want them spread out for viewership reasons - well and guys like me want them spread out too so I can watch as many during the week (as long as those nimrods at Fox play them all).

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  • YeetyaahY Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

    Me and the Mrs and my mate frequently go to Waikato games, only missed the last one. We're 24 & 25.

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by SammyC
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    We've talked about this quite a lot this season amoungst our season ticket group.

    Essentially we have 7 season tickets in a group, most NPC games only 3 or 4 of us show up and it's bloody hard to give away the seats.

    I reckon all NPC games should be held on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, I doubt it's going to make a huge difference to the numbers watching on TV if you play 2 games at the same time. Afternoon rugby is a far better schedule and better for those with young families.

    I agree with that in-principle and it worked well back in the day for the VFL/AFL here in OZ with all games on Saturday and the one live TV match was built as the “match of the round”. Crowds were excellent and it did build the foundations of the great tribalism that footy has.

    But if the comp is heavily reliant on TV money to survive then the TV stations are going to want as much content as possible and being able to advertise ‘Live’ content is all part of their marketing strategy.

    What difference that makes for viewers is arguable, but if they are forking out big coin they will want it accessible as possible.

    Eek, no way that would work ... do people not remember pre-pro rugby and the one game a week on TV One. Although I do understand where you're coming from.

    Also, haven't we been bemoaning the lack of crowds in the NPC for about the past 10 years. Most teams now work within the limitations of the competition (lower crowds. x share of the tv money) and budget accordingly. If we can ensure all teams break even (hopefully) and NZR are happy for the comp itself to run at a loss (assuming it does) and is propped up by the ABs and Super then I don't see an issue with that. It's a cost of the business (the business being NZ rugby as a whole).

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

    Every week I send round an email at work (40 staff, half of which are in the 22-30 age bracket) offering up our spare tickets for the games.

    Not once this season has anyone taken up my offer.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    replied to SammyC on last edited by
    #67

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    We've talked about this quite a lot this season amoungst our season ticket group.

    Essentially we have 7 season tickets in a group, most NPC games only 3 or 4 of us show up and it's bloody hard to give away the seats.

    I reckon all NPC games should be held on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, I doubt it's going to make a huge difference to the numbers watching on TV if you play 2 games at the same time. Afternoon rugby is a far better schedule and better for those with young families.

    I agree with that in-principle and it worked well back in the day for the VFL/AFL here in OZ with all games on Saturday and the one live TV match was built as the “match of the round”. Crowds were excellent and it did build the foundations of the great tribalism that footy has.

    But if the comp is heavily reliant on TV money to survive then the TV stations are going to want as much content as possible and being able to advertise ‘Live’ content is all part of their marketing strategy.

    What difference that makes for viewers is arguable, but if they are forking out big coin they will want it accessible as possible.

    Eek, no way that would work ... do people not remember pre-pro rugby and the one game a week on TV One. Although I do understand where you're coming from.

    Also, haven't we been bemoaning the lack of crowds in the NPC for about the past 10 years. Most teams now work within the limitations of the competition (lower crowds. x share of the tv money) and budget accordingly. If we can ensure all teams break even (hopefully) and NZR are happy for the comp itself to run at a loss (assuming it does) and is propped up by the ABs and Super then I don't see an issue with that. It's a cost of the business (the business being NZ rugby as a whole).

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

    Every week I send round an email at work (40 staff, half of which are in the 22-30 age bracket) offering up our spare tickets for the games.

    Not once this season has anyone taken up my offer.

    Would that be more because of the Crusaders success? I expect you will have a few at home for this weekends match. Do you have spare tickets this time? I would interested if they got snapped up at your work

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
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    @Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    We've talked about this quite a lot this season amoungst our season ticket group.

    Essentially we have 7 season tickets in a group, most NPC games only 3 or 4 of us show up and it's bloody hard to give away the seats.

    I reckon all NPC games should be held on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, I doubt it's going to make a huge difference to the numbers watching on TV if you play 2 games at the same time. Afternoon rugby is a far better schedule and better for those with young families.

    I agree with that in-principle and it worked well back in the day for the VFL/AFL here in OZ with all games on Saturday and the one live TV match was built as the “match of the round”. Crowds were excellent and it did build the foundations of the great tribalism that footy has.

    But if the comp is heavily reliant on TV money to survive then the TV stations are going to want as much content as possible and being able to advertise ‘Live’ content is all part of their marketing strategy.

    What difference that makes for viewers is arguable, but if they are forking out big coin they will want it accessible as possible.

    Eek, no way that would work ... do people not remember pre-pro rugby and the one game a week on TV One. Although I do understand where you're coming from.

    Also, haven't we been bemoaning the lack of crowds in the NPC for about the past 10 years. Most teams now work within the limitations of the competition (lower crowds. x share of the tv money) and budget accordingly. If we can ensure all teams break even (hopefully) and NZR are happy for the comp itself to run at a loss (assuming it does) and is propped up by the ABs and Super then I don't see an issue with that. It's a cost of the business (the business being NZ rugby as a whole).

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

    Every week I send round an email at work (40 staff, half of which are in the 22-30 age bracket) offering up our spare tickets for the games.

    Not once this season has anyone taken up my offer.

    Would that be more because of the Crusaders success? I expect you will have a few at home for this weekends match. Do you have spare tickets this time? I would interested if they got snapped up at your work

    Yeah Crusaders ticlets are pretty easy to give away.

    Will have some spares for the weekend, I'll let you know how I get on.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    replied to SammyC on last edited by
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    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @Hooroo said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @SammyC said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    We've talked about this quite a lot this season amoungst our season ticket group.

    Essentially we have 7 season tickets in a group, most NPC games only 3 or 4 of us show up and it's bloody hard to give away the seats.

    I reckon all NPC games should be held on Saturday and Sunday afternoon, I doubt it's going to make a huge difference to the numbers watching on TV if you play 2 games at the same time. Afternoon rugby is a far better schedule and better for those with young families.

    I agree with that in-principle and it worked well back in the day for the VFL/AFL here in OZ with all games on Saturday and the one live TV match was built as the “match of the round”. Crowds were excellent and it did build the foundations of the great tribalism that footy has.

    But if the comp is heavily reliant on TV money to survive then the TV stations are going to want as much content as possible and being able to advertise ‘Live’ content is all part of their marketing strategy.

    What difference that makes for viewers is arguable, but if they are forking out big coin they will want it accessible as possible.

    Eek, no way that would work ... do people not remember pre-pro rugby and the one game a week on TV One. Although I do understand where you're coming from.

    Also, haven't we been bemoaning the lack of crowds in the NPC for about the past 10 years. Most teams now work within the limitations of the competition (lower crowds. x share of the tv money) and budget accordingly. If we can ensure all teams break even (hopefully) and NZR are happy for the comp itself to run at a loss (assuming it does) and is propped up by the ABs and Super then I don't see an issue with that. It's a cost of the business (the business being NZ rugby as a whole).

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game. That’s the next generation of watcher that these unions need.

    Every week I send round an email at work (40 staff, half of which are in the 22-30 age bracket) offering up our spare tickets for the games.

    Not once this season has anyone taken up my offer.

    Would that be more because of the Crusaders success? I expect you will have a few at home for this weekends match. Do you have spare tickets this time? I would interested if they got snapped up at your work

    Yeah Crusaders ticlets are pretty easy to give away.

    Will have some spares for the weekend, I'll let you know how I get on.

    Yeah nice. I hope you get to give them all away

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game.

    They're the people who spend most of the time walking up and down the aisles annoying the rest of us. 🙂

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
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    @Bovidae said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game.

    They're the people who spend most of the time walking up and down the aisles annoying the rest of us. 🙂

    What? They’re not sitting down on their phones?

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
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    @Bovidae said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Mitre 10 Cup Attendance:

    I’d be really interested in how many 15-30 year old kiwis support a provincial side let alone go to a game.

    They're the people who spend most of the time walking up and down the aisles annoying the rest of us. 🙂

    Sorry, that's also me having to go for a slash every 20 minutes.

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