Judiciary Happenings

Stargazer

Ed Fidow is free to play with immediate effect

Samoa winger Ed Fidow attended a disciplinary hearing having been issued with a red card after receiving two yellow cards in Samoa’s Rugby World Cup 2019 match against Scotland on 30 September.

The Judicial Committee was chaired by Wang Shao Ing (Singapore lawyer and former international player) with former international player Olly Kohn (Wales) and former international referee José Luis Rolandi (Argentina).

After considering all the evidence and having given due consideration to the fact that:

a. the first yellow card was for a technical offence; and

b. the second yellow card was issued for a minor act of foul play which would not have warranted a yellow card but for the fact that the player had prevented a try being scored;

the Judicial Committee determined that the red card was sufficient. The player is free to play with immediate effect.

NTA

Both Italian props in that lifting tackle got 3 weeks.

Stargazer

@NTA Was just about to post this:

Italian prop Andrea Lovotti and replacement prop Nicola Quaglio suspended for 3 games

Italian prop Andrea Lovotti received a red card for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.18 (lifting tackle) in Italy’s Rugby World Cup 2019 match against South Africa on 4 October.  Italy replacement prop Nicola Quaglio was cited by citing commissioner John Montgomery (Scotland) for his involvement in the same tackle.

The players attended a disciplinary hearing in Tokyo on 6 October before an independent judicial panel chaired by Sir James Dingemans (England) with former international player Olly Kohn (Wales) and former Scotland coach Frank Hadden (Scotland).

Lovotti admitted the act of foul play and accepted that it warranted a red card. Quaglio accepted that he had committed an act of foul play but denied that it met the red card threshold. Having considered all the evidence and after hearing from the players and their legal representative, the panel upheld the citing against Quaglio and imposed a sanction of three matches for both players.

In reaching its decision, the panel took into account the following:

* Both players were involved in lifting South Africa number eight Duane Vermeulen and dropping him to the ground
* The dynamics of the tackle were affected by the actions of both players
* There was no lasting injury to the South Africa number eight
* There were no aggravating factors and full mitigation was applied because of the players’ clean records and acceptance of their individual roles in the foul play

The players will both miss Italy’s remaining pool match against New Zealand on 12 October. The balance of the suspension will be served in the Rugby World Cup quarter and semi-final should Italy progress. If Italy does not progress, the balance of the suspensions will be served in the players’ upcoming PRO14 matches.

taniwharugby

I expect Nepo will likely be cited for his, swinging arm, contact head...

NTA

@taniwharugby swinging arm looked bad BUT I'm pretty sure he will get off.

taniwharugby

@NTA cos...?

NTA

@taniwharugby that, but dipping player.

taniwharugby

@NTA yeah he was, but his arm was swinging quite hard, guess they will have to look into his eyes to see the malicious intent, I'll be surprised if Ofa gets cited, his was just his arm moving forward as any tackler does.

voodoo

@taniwharugby said in Judiciary Happenings:

@NTA yeah he was, but his arm was swinging quite hard, guess they will have to look into his eyes to see the malicious intent, I'll be surprised if Ofa gets cited, his was just his arm moving forward as any tackler does.

both should get off, Nepo YC fair, Ofa not even a P

ACT Crusader

@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

@taniwharugby swinging arm looked bad BUT I'm pretty sure he will get off.

This ain’t twitter mate...

Machpants

So will Italy have to swap a prop or two out for the ABs game? I guess they only have five in the squad, now 3 available for the game

Stargazer

@Machpants They have 6 props in their squad:

Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 23 caps)
Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby Club, 36 caps)*
Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton Rugby, 19 caps)
Nicola QUAGLIO (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)*
Marco RICCIONI (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)*
Federico ZANI (Benetton Rugby 8 caps)

canefan

@Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

@Machpants They have 6 props in their squad:

Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 23 caps)
Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby Club, 36 caps)*
Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton Rugby, 19 caps)
Nicola QUAGLIO (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)*
Marco RICCIONI (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)*
Federico ZANI (Benetton Rugby 8 caps)

Golden oldies scrums before half time then?

NTA

Ferrari broke down in the first ten minutes against the Boks. Ice on the hammy.

Billy Tell

What sanction did Wayne Barnes get for not calling 2 clear red cards?

taniwharugby

@Billy-Tell said in Judiciary Happenings:

sanction did Wayne Barnes get for not calling 2 clear red cards?

same as missing forward passes...oh wait, I'm over that

Rapido

@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

Both Italian props in that lifting tackle got 3 weeks.

Just a personal opinion.

But I want to point out that it is a scandal that BOTH props are banned (pseudo red cards). Either that or I would like to take time to bow in amazement at their coordination to act in perfect planned unison to cause this tip.

Stupid Infexibility by the judiciary. Blind Freddie can tell that one numbskull turned that lift into a tip. Not two.

Justice for Waynes Barnes !!!!

Rapido

@canefan said in Judiciary Happenings:

@Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

@Machpants They have 6 props in their squad:

Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 23 caps)
Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby Club, 36 caps)*
Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton Rugby, 19 caps)
Nicola QUAGLIO (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)*
Marco RICCIONI (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)*
Federico ZANI (Benetton Rugby 8 caps)

Golden oldies scrums before half time then?

I'd be OK with that. Anything to put this farcial card-flashing into a bad light will be OK with me.

Billy Webb

@Rapido said in Judiciary Happenings:

@NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

Both Italian props in that lifting tackle got 3 weeks.

Just a personal opinion.

But I want to point out that it is a scandal that BOTH props are banned (pseudo red cards). Either that or I would like to take time to bow in amazement at their coordination to act in perfect planned unison to cause this tip.

Stupid Infexibility by the judiciary. Blind Freddie can tell that one numbskull turned that lift into a tip. Not two.

Justice for Waynes Barnes !!!!

It's a pity one can't down-vote a post. I completely disagree.
Whistle goes.
2 neanderthal Italians still think it is a good idea to take on Vermeulen.
BOTH go for the lift - watch the various angles.

The scandal is that they did not BOTH receive a red card on-field.
Second part of the scandal is that they received the same 3-game punishment for a deliberate act of foul play, that for instance Reece-Hodge received for a poor tackle technique.

antipodean

@Billy-Webb said in Judiciary Happenings:

Second part of the scandal is that they received the same 3-game punishment for a deliberate act of foul play, that for instance Reece-Hodge received for a poor tackle technique.

I was reflecting on that myself. It seems the judiciary are desperate to make themselves look incompetent.

The Silver Fern

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