CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia
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So did some maths at breakfast this morning guppy averaging 25 and Munro 22 for the cwc. If you get rid of the first none pressure game vs srilanka I think guppy is averaging 12 and Munro 13.... We aren't going to win if these two can't start us off with a decent platform in the next two games
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Well I've seen that old "gettable target, with a limp wristed chase" against Aussie scenario sssoooooooo many times.
On slow turning tracks we so often get found out. All those drop in belters we use covers up the skills that Usman and Carey ( an Aussie AB de Villiers in the making?) showed. But you can shuffle the deckchairs forever but there is a lot of underperforming going on with a lot of players.
Kane's spin bowling was the most likely, not that the others were poor, but he had more bite coming out of his weird action.
So another thrashing by the ockers in an important game. Lucky I have 4 decades of scar tissue from previous nz cricket dung piles to form a barrier between expectations and realities 🙂. One game at a time.
Hopefully India put us through tonight and then we play 2 knockout games for the ages and we all rejoice in kiwi ingenuity!
You can be world champions without being the best in the world can't you?
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@KiwiMurph said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Glass half full approach is I don't think we can beat Australia twice in a World Cup so better to lose to them in pool play.
And yes to have to play them twice we would have to make the semis.
I agree. After we beat them in 2015 you knew they weren't going to underprepared for us. Hopefully if we find ourselves in the same situation in the SF we will do it differently. I'd be happy if we threw our strike bowlers in to cripple their batting line up and accept the risk of not having them at the death
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@MN5 said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@NTA said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Have only watched highlights.
Carey is the fucking man.
That is all.
Pffffft. Settle down. It was clearly a second string BCs attack. No Henry OR SOuthee.
Oh sorry, you're right. You only had Angry Mo and Starc Lite, who opened with The Zimbot.
EDIT: forgot to mention your front line spinners got 1 less wicket combined than your part timer. Slow clap.
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This was a limp wristed performance that we should make some changes for. 92 - 5 and you bowl your best bowlers out because 1 more wicket and you had them - Kane what are you doing? He is very conservative Captain. Bowlers allowed too many 4 balls in overs and released pressure - full or down leg. Chasing they needed to keep turning the strike over and play with intent. We aren’t good enough to sit back like this regardless of the pitch.
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@Donsteppa said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Stead seems to have imposed his own 90's approach to batting on the team
@MN5 said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
I hope Stead has some kind of master plan
@shark said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Starting to really question Steads' selectorial nous.
Has the convention of the captain selecting the match day 11 changed recently?
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@rotated no one actually knows who selects the 11 but I postulate that Kane's standing is such that I can't see justification for his input to be ignored.
Blaming selectors for the failings of international capable players is putting the cart before the horse in my opinion. -
@NTA said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@MN5 said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@NTA said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Have only watched highlights.
Carey is the fucking man.
That is all.
Pffffft. Settle down. It was clearly a second string BCs attack. No Henry OR SOuthee.
Oh sorry, you're right. You only had Angry Mo and Starc Lite, who opened with The Zimbot.
EDIT: forgot to mention your front line spinners got 1 less wicket combined than your part timer. Slow clap.
It pains me how true all of this is.
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@kiwiinmelb said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Become a bit hardened to it over the years ,
Aussies nearly always seem to have our number when it matters ,
Pretty much a mirror image of the ABs Wallabies scenario
And the Blackcaps can’t even pull the “cattle” card.
We have a good team but guys that need to perform are not.
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@ACT-Crusader said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@kiwiinmelb said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Become a bit hardened to it over the years ,
Aussies nearly always seem to have our number when it matters ,
Pretty much a mirror image of the ABs Wallabies scenario
And the Blackcaps can’t even pull the “cattle” card.
We have a good team but guys that need to perform are not.
Mitch Santner for one has escaped a shitload of criticism.
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@MN5 said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@ACT-Crusader said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@kiwiinmelb said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Become a bit hardened to it over the years ,
Aussies nearly always seem to have our number when it matters ,
Pretty much a mirror image of the ABs Wallabies scenario
And the Blackcaps can’t even pull the “cattle” card.
We have a good team but guys that need to perform are not.
Mitch Santner for one has escaped a shitload of criticism.
Really? When did you take a holiday from posting?
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What I learnt is Australia are the #2 in this tournament and will lose to India in the final who are clearly the #1. Everyone else can go home now.
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@kev said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
This was a limp wristed performance that we should make some changes for. 92 - 5 and you bowl your best bowlers out because 1 more wicket and you had them - Kane what are you doing? He is very conservative Captain. Bowlers allowed too many 4 balls in overs and released pressure - full or down leg. Chasing they needed to keep turning the strike over and play with intent. We aren’t good enough to sit back like this regardless of the pitch.
Agree completely. Against a team like Aus you need to throw caution to the wind. That's what sets Baz apart from other NZ captains; as soon as we got a sniff he went hell for leather. Didn't always pan out but it gave us a chance of beating some far more talented teams.
I've read Baz's autobiography and he says Hess was always trying to reign in his aggression, so I think between them they found a good balance. Kane/Stead is definitely a more conservative combination. If we make the semi I'd like to see us try something more out-of-the-box to try and unsettle our opponents a bit.
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@Donsteppa said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@MN5 said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@ACT-Crusader said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
@kiwiinmelb said in CWC Game #8 Black Caps v Australia:
Become a bit hardened to it over the years ,
Aussies nearly always seem to have our number when it matters ,
Pretty much a mirror image of the ABs Wallabies scenario
And the Blackcaps can’t even pull the “cattle” card.
We have a good team but guys that need to perform are not.
Mitch Santner for one has escaped a shitload of criticism.
Really? When did you take a holiday from posting?
I guess he's probably scraped in with a few bits and pieces here and there which sums up his career and he'll be pleased Guptill, Munro and Latham are around to hog the negative headlines too.
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I stayed up for the is game and I watched through the night from start through to futile finish.
Aside from the obvious highlight of Boults Last over(which had he bowled one more Yorker would have been a double hattrick) the best thing that happened was Michael Slater making fat jokes at Ian Smith’s expense and then Smithy ripping him a new one live on air. Then suddenly silence and a comms change.
If he wasn’t already on his last legs as a comms man Slater is now.
