2019 under 20's
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45-33 now
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England won 24-23
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52-33 no won
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Good win, just a bit concerned about the amount of points conceded ..have not seen yet, thoughts anybody..?
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@Canes4life heard the Spark coverage went down again..?
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Just watched the game and made a lot of notes. This is what I've taken away from this game.
Coaching: terrible. Some of the substitutions came way too late. Several players suffered from cramp (particularly Mua, Funaki) or minor injuries that seemed to bother the players (esp Lalomilo) and it took ages before they were replaced. The conditions were apparently hot; replacements must be timed better.
Game management: mixed bag. The play still went from side to side too often (esp in the first half), and we just couldn't move forward.
Some really bad handling errors in this game, including unnecessary knock ons. Passing sometimes also sloppy (including from both halves).
Line-outs: went well, both throwing and catching, also after substitutions.
Scrum: there were few in the first half; in the second half we struggled.
Defence against line-out mauls: mixed (there were few of them in the game).
Kicking: goal kicking - mixed results; kicks in play: not too many, but there were some really good ones (from different players)
Tackling: obviously, too many missed tackles. Too many easy scores for the Scots.
Stand-outs: Plumtree, Gregory, Lalomilo (the only reason I left Tupaea out of this list is his missed tackles)
Disappointing: Boshier, Va'ai, Uluilakepa (apart from his early try)
Busiest: Tupaea and Proctor (but not always successful)
Invisible for most of the game: Nanai-Seturo (exceptions were some good runs and a turnover in the 2nd half), Parker
Good bench impact: Williams, Kereru-Symes
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FYI, the subs that were made during the game:
41' Williams on for Uluilakepa; Grace for Va'ai
51' Kereru-Symes on for Klein
55' Norris on for Dyer
64' Herbert on for Mua; Reihana for Nanai-Seturo
71' Fainga'anuku replaces Lalomilo
72' Carter on for FunakiWithout watching the game and knowing the conditions, the timing of some substitutions may seem okay, but they really weren't.
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@Steven-Harris said in 2019 under 20's:
@Canes4life heard the Spark coverage went down again..?
I think the WR stream on YouTube also went down, so probably not a Spark issue.
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@Steven-Harris @Rapido In the online video (if you watch on demand), the footage freezes at the 38 minute mark (IRC) and then continues after a short while. So even if there has been a problem with the livestreaming, people can still watch the complete game.
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@Machpants We need to finish in the top four of all three pools combined. At the moment, there are four countries with 10 points from 2 wins: France, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.
The problem is that we still have to play South Africa. If we lose that match, we can still go through on points differential (assuming that's the tie breaker) if we get a bonus point, even if Argentina (now at 6 points) gets a bonus point win. If Argentina have a bonus point win and we lose without a bonus point, we have to look at France. If we lose without a bonus point and Argentina win without a bonus point, we can still go through on points differential. Good thing is that Argentina and France still have to play each other.
If France loses, we have a slightly better points differential, but we can definitely not suffer a big loss to SA. If France loses with a bonus point, we need a bonus point as well, although all depends on Argentina's competition points on where France - and NZ - finish.
Ireland can still reach the same number of competition points, too, if they win with a bonus point and we lose without a bonus point, but their points differential isn't as good as ours.
So basically, we need at least a bonus point from our game against SA. That ensures a minimum of 11 bonus points and also a good points differential.
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@Number-10 Yeah, and they have some really big units in that team. I think our boys will struggle against SA. If SA have as many handling errors in their game as they had against Scotland, then we have a chance though. Haven't watched their game against Georgia yet.
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Hard to make a global comment since the first 38 minutes are missing.
From what I saw during the second half, the passing was good and the forwards made the hard yards. Williams was a tower of strength with ball in hand. The biggest concern is the scrum. It must be a matter of technique surely as the NZ props are very big boys. Lineout OK. -
I haven';t watched a lot of this, but I've seen enough to think Australia should hump England and you could flick a coin between South Africa and New Zealand.
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NZ U20 team to play South Africa (Thu 13 June, 6.30am):
1 Ollie Norris
2 Kianu Kereru Symes (c)
3 Fletcher Newell
4 Cullen Grace
5 Tupou Vaa’i
6 Samipeni Finau
7 Kohan Herbert
8 Devan Flanders
9 Leroy Carter
10 Fergus Burke
11 Leicester Faingaanuku
12 Dallas McLeod
13 Billy Proctor
14 Etene Nanai-Seturo
15 Cole ForbesReserves
16 Shilo Klein
17 George Dyer
18 Tamaiti Williams
19 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa
20 Taine Plumtree
21 Kaylum Boshier
22 Jeriah Mua
23 Simon Parker
24 Taufa Funaki
25 Rivez Reihana
26 Lalomilo Lalomilo
27 Quinn Tupaea
28 Scott GregoryCoach Craig Philpott has rung in the changes for the must-win pool match against South Africa. Captain Kianu Kereru Symes returns to start at hooker and will be joined by Ollie Norris and Fletcher Newell in the front row. Samipeni Finau, Kohan Herbert and Devan Flanders combine as a dynamic loose forward trio for the second time after impressing against Georgia. In the backline Fergus Burke, Etene Nanai-Seturo and Billy Proctor retain their starting positions from the 52—33 win over Scotland.The extended bench has plenty of fire power and Philpott said it will play a crucial role in the match. “There has been a lot of learning around how to manage the extended bench, we are able to react to how the game is developing to make sure the players we bring on are in a position to make a real impact.” The New Zealand Under 20 side currently sit second, on points difference, behind South Africa in their pool. A win tomorrow would confirm their place in the semi-finals otherwise they would have to wait on other results to potentially qualify as the best finishing second place team.http://www.allblacks.com/News/34255/nz-under-20s-named-for-final-pool-match
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@cgrant
Having watched both NZ games I agree, however they are only 1 point ahead on PD after playing the same teams, and I think the NZ team got sloppy against Scotland after going 26-0 after 27 minutes.Is Grace really 1.9m? If so, he is Blackwell 2.0, ranga and all.
