Blues v Bulls
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@Crucial Yep, agree totally. Plummer is young and green, but he has the vision and committment. Leadership was key in those last few minutes and was a contributing factor in having the win snatched from them. Patty T will hopefully learn a lot from that.
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@Crucial I had no problem with him going for points. Our season's virtually over anyway and the only way for him to get better in situations like these are by continuing to go for it. If you have a chance to win a game with a penalty kick ou always go for it imo.
Who's to say that we wouldn't have butchered the lineout anyway?
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@KiwiMurph Yup, hindsight is a wonderful thing. He'd be a hero if he managed to nail the kick but such is life.
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A team with fresher players on the field would probably be less likely to make as many handling errors, and could probably play to a pattern better.
My biggest criticism of MacDonald is his reluctance to use the bench, and more so his lack of squad management.
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I think you are all making excuses for Plummer.
Thought he had a reasonable game general play wise.
To be fair Eden Park is his home ground and I would imagine he gets to practice on this ground, his last kick had the yips about it.
Come the hour, come the man..can think of many examples of players who have stepped up and nailed kicks...a very young Josh Ioane nailing a penalty from a wide angle in the Mitre 10 cup semi final last year..
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@Steven-Harris Plummer has done it before too. His wide conversion in the rain tied the Mitre 10 Cup final allowing it to go to overtime.
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@KiwiMurph which makes his 2 misses against the Saders in the first game of the season and let’s face it very kickable shots those 2 ,add in tonight’s miss even more unacceptable...has he got what it takes at super rugby level in terms of temperament when put in a clutch situation..?
Forgot to mention 55% kicking success rate..unacceptable in my book.
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@Tim said in Blues v Bulls:
A team with fresher players on the field would probably be less likely to make as many handling errors, and could probably play to a pattern better.
My biggest criticism of MacDonald is his reluctance to use the bench, and more so his lack of squad management.
This.
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@Steven-Harris said in Blues v Bulls:
@KiwiMurph which makes his 2 misses against the Saders in the first game of the season and let’s face it very kickable shots those 2 ,add in tonight’s miss even more unacceptable...has he got what it takes at super rugby level in terms of temperament when put in a clutch situation..?
Forgot to mention 55% kicking success rate..unacceptable in my book.
2 misses against the 2 time defending champions in his Super Rugby debut?
Ok?
He's a 20 year old rookie thrust into starting.
FFS can we just let the kid settle for a season before throwing him to the wolves.
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@hydro11 Curwin Bosh who is only 22 has had kicking success rate around the mid eighties for the last 3 seasons ..If Plummer is to define himself as a top class pivot ,he needs to be much better than 55%..Perofeta as a 20 year old was copping the same criticism for inconsistent goal kicking..regardless of age ,if goal kicking is part of your repertoire, make it count..
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@Steven-Harris said in Blues v Bulls:
@hydro11 Curwin Bosh who is only 22 has had kicking success rate around the mid eighties for the last 3 seasons ..If Plummer is to define himself as a top class pivot ,he needs to be much better than 55%..Perofeta as a 20 year old was copping the same criticism for inconsistent goal kicking..regardless of age ,if goal kicking is part of your repertoire, make it count..
I rest my case...I don't really understand why a 25 year old should be a better goal kicker than a 20 year old. Plummer will be working a lot on his goal kicking I'm sure. I would have expected a talented young first-five to have done a lot of practice by the time he gets to 20. Hopefully Plummer gets the best coaches in the country and fixes whatever technical issue he has. I do expect a young player to have work ons but I'm just not convinced that goal kicking should be one of them.
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@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Bulls:
Curwin Bosch debuted for the Sharks in 2016....so he's now in his 4th year....that's a fair comparison to a rookie.....
What did he kick in his first season?
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Wading through the thread late.
My two cents before commenting on other comments:
- Blues blew that
- Shame Plummer missed that last kick. He'll be remembered for that but he is growing on me generally.
- Ruru scored that but TMO correct in his ruling not over ruling the on field decision
- Crusaders fans will be pissed off for that Bulls try ...
... absolutely not forward but carbon fucking copy of Ennor's pass to Reece. - Fraser was awful, particularly early on. Can't remember specifics apart from the off side off the knock on from the kick off. How. Fucking. Obvious. Was. It?
- And kudos to the 10-14 guys who picked up the pattern of the Saffas forcing a limb or two into the tackle to slow the ball down. They do it so well. See point above about Fraser being awful.
- Blake Gibson. Why?
Other stuffs follows as I read the thread ...
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@Gunner said in Blues v Bulls:
Clever slowing the ruck ball down a few phases ago by the bulls player.
Pretended to dive back over to his own side of the ruck but didn’t go far enough and left his knees over the ball, perfectly slowing it down.
Wake up ref!Cynical. Clever coz they get away with it
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@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Bulls:
Can we drag Ruru? FFS!
Oh yeah. They've now got s couple of 10s who can do the job ... find a couple of 9s
