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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

    Fark, now the Reds roll the guppies 14-21 as the topsy Turvey SA conference rolls on...giving me 1/3 picks this weekend now

    Everyone look at the tipping superstar bragging. I'm 0-3.

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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

    Fark, now the Reds roll the guppies 14-21 as the topsy Turvey SA conference rolls on...giving me 1/3 picks this weekend now

    Bloody good competition this year. Not many games you know the result before kick off (unless the Crusaders are at home).

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    Pretty sad to see two NZ teams at the bottom of the table - Sunwolves are almost a non team and are mostly Kiwi anyway!

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    But then when you look at the points difference from 5th ~ 14th is only one bonus win 5 pointer - it's as close as it's ever been.

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    2nd and 3rd are only 2 and 1 points ahead of that, too

    Saders > daylight > canes> the rest > wolves pretty much sums it up. Saders +121 points differential!

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    [link text](link https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112160813/the-data-is-in-all-black-richie-mounga-is-the-worlds-most-influential-playerurl)

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    @Chris

    AT A GLANCE

    RPI Top 10 Kiwi players

    1. Richie Mo'unga
    2. Kieran Read
    3. Jack Goodhue
    4. Ardie Savea
    5. Codie Taylor
    6. Beauden Barrett
    7. Ryan Crotty
    8. Jordie Barrett
    9. Matt Todd
    10. George Bridge

    Seriously? Read in second place? Wouldn't that tell you your data model needs some serious work?

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    Only 7 from crusaders? Needs to be 10

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    @antipodean the big thing is the 75% weighting to historical data

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    Is this the same play ranking we took the piss out of last year or is it a different one?

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    @Nepia Yes, it is.

    As has been discussed in another thread before, that Rugbypass rating system is totally useless.

    This is their top 10 of Super Rugby first five-eighths and a few others in the ranking. You can immediately see that there's something badly wrong with it:

    1 Mo'unga
    2 BB
    3 Pollard
    4 Brett Cameron
    5 Jackson G-B

    6 Foley
    7 du Preez
    8 Mitch Hunt
    9 Marty Banks
    10 Domingo Miotti (Jaguares)
    31 Hayden Parker
    33 Beaudein Waaka

    Cameron has played 87 minutes of SR, and 6 minutes last year.
    JG-B has played 48 minutes this year, 86 minutes last year, and we know he is seriously shit.
    There's no way that these two players have been more influential than some of their lower ranked colleagues.

    Miotti has played 78 minutes of SR. He made his debut this year and yes, played very well, but seriously, a higher rating than guys like Quade Cooper, Leali'ifano, Jean-Luc du Plessis and Hayden Parker?

    And Hayden Parker is only rated 31st (out of a total of 48 first five-eighths)?

    Beaudein Waaka has played zero SR and is in the rating?

    Well, I guess it's a positive they have finally removed TJ Va'a ...

    I had a quick look at other positions, and they aren't any better.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @Nepia Yes, it is.

    As has been discussed in another thread before, that Rugbypass rating system is totally useless.

    This is their top 10 of Super Rugby first five-eighths and a few others in the ranking. You can immediately see that there's something badly wrong with it:

    1 Mo'unga
    2 BB
    3 Pollard
    4 Brett Cameron
    5 Jackson G-B

    6 Foley
    7 du Preez
    8 Mitch Hunt
    9 Marty Banks
    10 Domingo Miotti (Jaguares)
    31 Hayden Parker
    33 Beaudein Waaka

    Cameron has played 87 minutes of SR, and 6 minutes last year.
    JG-B has played 48 minutes this year, 86 minutes last year, and we know he is seriously shit.
    There's no way that these two players have been more influential than some of their lower ranked colleagues.

    Miotti has played 78 minutes of SR. He made his debut this year and yes, played very well, but seriously, a higher rating than guys like Quade Cooper, Leali'ifano, Jean-Luc du Plessis and Hayden Parker?

    And Hayden Parker is only rated 31st (out of a total of 48 first five-eighths)?

    Beaudein Waaka has played zero SR and is in the rating?

    Well, I guess it's a positive they have finally removed TJ Va'a ...

    I had a quick look at other positions, and they aren't any better.

    Who is the Jagular's regular 10?

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    @booboo I think Joaquín Díaz Bonilla is their first choice, with Santiago González Iglesias as his back-up, but SGI has also started a few games iirc.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @Nepia Yes, it is.

    As has been discussed in another thread before, that Rugbypass rating system is totally useless.

    This is their top 10 of Super Rugby first five-eighths and a few others in the ranking. You can immediately see that there's something badly wrong with it:
    JG-B has played 48 minutes this year, 86 minutes last year, and we know he is seriously shit.

    Well, I guess it's a positive they have finally removed TJ Va'a ...

    JG-B must be being procted in case needed for trhe All Blacks as he made neither the Hurricanes Development Team nor his Club's Premier team this weekend. Either that or possibly neither of those coaches wanted him. Stargazer will be able to fill us in with details should he be in the "not available for selection beacuse of injury" category.
    Incidentally TJ Va'a will probably be back on the list as he payed halfback for Wainuimoata on Saturday. Incidentally. for Nepis's information, Marvan Karawana managed to make their bench.

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    @Higgins Va'a has moved to Halfback permanently aparently which could prove highly beneficial to his career opportunities down the track. He seems too small for 1st five but has a fairly good skillset that could take him places. There are next to no halfbacks coming through the Wellington system atm apart from Harken so i'd say he has been shoulder tapped to move there.

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    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby News:

    @Higgins Va'a has moved to Halfback permanently aparently which could prove highly beneficial to his career opportunities down the track. He seems too small for 1st five but has a fairly good skillset that could take him places. There are next to no halfbacks coming through the Wellington system atm apart from Harken so i'd say he has been shoulder tapped to move there.

    Two interesting things to ponder on here. i) What has happened to all the money pissed away on the much heralded Carlos Price and ii) will those responsible for signing up Va'a as a first five whilst still at school come under serious questioning from rank and file financial members of the WFRU's constituent clubs if he is now not deemed to be good enough as a first five.

    From what I have heard whispered the WRFU might have already signed up (starting 2020) a half back that played Mitre10 Cup for another province for between 2015-17 and is currently playing up in Japan. Not much incentive for any local halfbacks, Va'a included, if that is true.

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    @Higgins Jamie Booth?

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    @Canes4life Think he's talking about Jono Hickey.

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    @Tim Oh for christ sake. Wellington Rugby never fails to disapoint.

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    @Canes4life Enjoy hahaha. Can't believe he almost got a contract with the Crusaders a few years back.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by Higgins
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    @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

    @Canes4life Think he's talking about Jono Hickey.

    You might be close to the mark there Tim, but I have not had it completely verified from impeccable sources yet.

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    @African-Monkey he was hopeless in the pre season game against the Crusaders earleir this year. Knocked the ball on three times at the base of the scrum from my count and that was only 30 mins of play.

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