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    @Billy-Tell said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @canefan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Billy-Tell said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Turnout to rugby matches in NZ is very poor. Stupidity to build more than 30'000, which would be filled once a year for an AB match.

    30k with potential to increase to 40k with temporary seating is about right.

    That's not an option unfortunately. As it stands (excuse the pun) we're looking at 25,000 - 30,000 seats under a roof. The only way to get anywhere near 40,000 is to build an open stadium.

    No need for 40000. It’d be an empty white elephant. Yes you could fill it for AB tests, possibly a lions match every 12 years vs the cruaders, possibly a super rugby final but for run of the mill super rugby and npc games 40000 is way too much. Better smaller, closer to capacity with better atmosphere.

    The last figures I could find on average attendance at Crusaders games were from 2017 and we were getting a little under 15k to each game. Winners are grinners though so I wouldn't be at all surprised if this rose last year and did so again this year.

    We've been winning now for 20 years and with the pieces in place that we have there is no reason to believe that changes going forward, so that combination of a winning team and a fancy new stadium could easily attract 25,000 per game for at least the first couple of seasons. I think the Crusaders need something like 12,000 per game in order to make some coin so this would put the Crusaders as a tenant and by default the stadium (V Base?) in a strong position.

    Additionally, while you've forked out for 40,000 seats up front, you wouldn't need to open up the entire stadium and those associated costs (staff at all posts etc) for every game. You'd look to sell out the main stand which should also be the one on camera, and once that's full or close to it (obviously depepndent on which sections) you'd open up other areas. This keeps down event costs.

    A 40,000 seater is the horse to back, but it's not even at the starting gate at this stage.

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    replied to shark on last edited by
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    @shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Billy-Tell said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @canefan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Billy-Tell said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Turnout to rugby matches in NZ is very poor. Stupidity to build more than 30'000, which would be filled once a year for an AB match.

    30k with potential to increase to 40k with temporary seating is about right.

    That's not an option unfortunately. As it stands (excuse the pun) we're looking at 25,000 - 30,000 seats under a roof. The only way to get anywhere near 40,000 is to build an open stadium.

    No need for 40000. It’d be an empty white elephant. Yes you could fill it for AB tests, possibly a lions match every 12 years vs the cruaders, possibly a super rugby final but for run of the mill super rugby and npc games 40000 is way too much. Better smaller, closer to capacity with better atmosphere.

    The last figures I could find on average attendance at Crusaders games were from 2017 and we were getting a little under 15k to each game. Winners are grinners though so I wouldn't be at all surprised if this rose last year and did so again this year.

    We've been winning now for 20 years and with the pieces in place that we have there is no reason to believe that changes going forward, so that combination of a winning team and a fancy new stadium could easily attract 25,000 per game for at least the first couple of seasons. I think the Crusaders need something like 12,000 per game in order to make some coin so this would put the Crusaders as a tenant and by default the stadium (V Base?) in a strong position.

    Additionally, while you've forked out for 40,000 seats up front, you wouldn't need to open up the entire stadium and those associated costs (staff at all posts etc) for every game. You'd look to sell out the main stand which should also be the one on camera, and once that's full or close to it (obviously depepndent on which sections) you'd open up other areas. This keeps down event costs.

    A 40,000 seater is the horse to back, but it's not even at the starting gate at this stage.

    And we are only focusing on rugby here. For all the concerts it could hold and other like events, you want to have more than less as mostly they will sell out.

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    wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
    #243

    I know it is on a much smaller scale (~12,000 seats, although Wiki says 30,000 capacity :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes: ), but there was uproar about Northland Events Centre being a white elephant and a waste of money, why do we do this for rugby blah blah blah.

    That Stadium has been awesome for us, we have the Warriors playing there this weekend (again), we have had International League, football and rugby matches there, without looking at the functions, concerts or local events that now get held there annually due to the quality of the facilities.

    Of which, I would say we get none in the old stadium.

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    The new Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta reportedly cost ~$360million. Open air stadium that seats 30K with shelter:

    alt text

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    Build it like the new Raiders stadium in Vegas. Check out the walkthroughs on Youtube

    Apparently the new Rams stadium in LA will be even better

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    @nzzp yup - don't know if it still is but when I was involved in using it as a venue it was the most utilised such facility in the country.

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    @mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Build it like the new Raiders stadium in Vegas. Check out the walkthroughs on Youtube

    Apparently the new Rams stadium in LA will be even better

    Wow. Both those stadiums are sexy as fuck but especially the Raiders' stadium.

    The megatron at the LA stadium surely won't be as obtrusive as it looks based on that massive model?!

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    @shark incredible aren't they? Oh to have that kind of money

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    @mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @shark incredible aren't they? Oh to have that kind of money

    USD2bn!

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    In the mean time: New name for Christchurch stadium

    Christchurch Stadium is set to be renamed Orangetheory Stadium, named after the global gym chain that has bought the naming rights.
    
    The new name will take effect on June 10. The venue will continue to be Christchurch Stadium until then.
    
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    @Stargazer what ever happened to it being called Wyatt Crockett stadium?

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    replied to Yeetyaah on last edited by
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    @Yeetyaah That was only for one or two games.

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    More info:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/111827652/christchurch-stadium-soon-to-be-known-as-orangetheory-stadium

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    So we've got the Caketin in Wellington, the Glasshouse in Dunedin and now the Fruitbowl in Christchurch.

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    @Cyclops Haha, I actually think Fruitbowl is a better name than that mouthful "Orangetheory Stadium"

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    @Yeetyaah said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Stargazer what ever happened to it being called Wyatt Crockett stadium?

    They are saving that for the new team name

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    @Cyclops said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    So we've got the Caketin in Wellington, the Glasshouse in Dunedin and now the Fruitbowl in Christchurch.

    All good nicknames 🙂

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Cyclops said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    So we've got the Caketin in Wellington, the Glasshouse in Dunedin and now the Fruitbowl in Christchurch.

    All good nicknames 🙂

    In Auckland we have 'The Albatross?' or 'The Millstone?'

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    replied to canefan on last edited by
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    @canefan Not at test level. It's the hardest ground in the world to win at.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @canefan Not at test level. It's the hardest ground in the world to win at.

    Wasn't talking out the onfield stuff

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