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    @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

    I love how he just doesn't rate Retallic

    Typical Walrus. Praise at the start before he sticks the knife in.

    What's the bet he'd have Itoje ahead of BBBR in his World XV?

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    @bovidae said in NH International Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

    I love how he just doesn't rate Retallic

    Typical Walrus. Praise at the start before he sticks the knife in.

    What's the bet he'd have Itoje ahead of BBBR in his World XV?

    Who?

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    @booboo said in NH International Rugby:

    @bovidae said in NH International Rugby:

    @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

    I love how he just doesn't rate Retallic

    Typical Walrus. Praise at the start before he sticks the knife in.

    What's the bet he'd have Itoje ahead of BBBR in his World XV?

    Who?

    Some bloke named Maria

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    The crowds for the out-of-window tests this weekend. None of them a sell-out.

    Cardiff, Wales v Scotland: 63,188 - capacity = 74,500
    Twickenham, England v South Africa: 80,369 - capacity = 82,000
    Tokyo, Japan v New Zealand: 43,751 - capacity = 49,970
    Chicago, Ireland v Italy: 35,051 - capacity = 62,000

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    @rapido said in NH International Rugby:

    The crowds for the out-of-window tests this weekend. None of them a sell-out.

    Chicago, Ireland v Italy: 35,051 - capacity = 62,000

    What was the deal for the triple header weekend? Did you need to buy a ticket to each game or the match ticket covered all 3 games?

    I didn't watch the Ireland-Italy game but there wasn't as many Irish fans in the crowd for the USA-Maori game as I expected (based on the TV footage).

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    “No one is scared of them, no one is afraid of them. “They are a quality team. So are we. We just need to turn up on the day and we can turn them over.”

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    @bovidae said in NH International Rugby:

    @rapido said in NH International Rugby:

    The crowds for the out-of-window tests this weekend. None of them a sell-out.

    Chicago, Ireland v Italy: 35,051 - capacity = 62,000

    What was the deal for the triple header weekend? Did you need to buy a ticket to each game or the match ticket covered all 3 games?

    I didn't watch the Ireland-Italy game but there wasn't as many Irish fans in the crowd for the USA-Maori game as I expected (based on the TV footage).

    1 ticket for the whole day. No pass outs. 8 hours.

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    So the mini-intra-RWC-stop-teh-friendlies League is gathering momentum, with the proviso that all finals will be in NH. A bit of a diadvantage but TBH I don't give a shit. Tew has it right, this is the important part

    "If we use the window better can we generate more revenue than we do now. Then you can discuss how you divvy up the incremental revenue rather than attack the existing model because that's not on the table,"

    I.e. you NH Unions will have to accept some revenue sharing for us to play finals up there all the time. We need the cash.

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    @machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    So the mini-intra-RWC-stop-teh-friendlies League is gathering momentum, with the proviso that all finals will be in NH.

    Fuck that. I want to go to tests without having to fly halfway round the world.

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    @antipodean Test windows will be the same, played SH July, NH Nov (basically) so the finals will always be in NH. You'll still see test, just 'round robin' tests.

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    When (which year) is this League of top 12 Nations supposed to start? Because if the reports in the Irish media are correct, I'm not sure how that fits in with what the Irish media are reporting:

    In addition to hosting the All Blacks again in November 2021, Ireland are in line to tour New Zealand for a three-Test series in 2022. It will be Ireland’s first trek there in a decade.
    
    The Irish and New Zealand rugby unions are in negotiations to finalise agreement on the tour, but it is expected that the three-match Test series will go ahead.
    
    End-of-season tours to New Zealand are both the most daunting and desired, generally providing the toughest challenge which any seasonal itinerary can throw up.
    
    Rugby

    Ireland set for three-Test tour of New Zealand in 2022

    Ireland set for three-Test tour of New Zealand in 2022

    Defence coach Farrell insists ‘we want to play them as much as we possibly can’

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    @machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    @antipodean Test windows will be the same, played SH July, NH Nov (basically) so the finals will always be in NH. You'll still see test, just 'round robin' tests.

    Fuck that. I want tours. This is regressive.

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    @stargazer They Unions will still be pre-planning normal tours, in case the League falls through. League is not anywhere near guaranteed, so you've got to have plans for both.

    @antipodean Tours are regressive, they're the past (see number of mid week games and Lions tour length over the last few decades), the future is squeezing every bit of cash out of nothing trophies (see every shield/cup/bowl invented and competed over between each individual country over the last few decades)- not saying I agree but that's the way it is. A league table draws more interest than a tour of the same knackered end-of-season often second string chumps that turn up here every June to play our rusty as fuck scrape the first one or two tests then smash them ABs!

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    @machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    A league table draws more interest than a tour of the same knackered end-of-season often second string chumps that turn up here every June to play our rusty as fuck scrape the first one or two tests then smash them ABs!

    How? They'll still be sending their second string chumps.

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    Ah but then non rugby tragics will have a table to look at and see how exciting their team is. It's a fact that tests are stating to be seen as not tests, the disgusting fucking shit soccer word friendlies has entered the rugby vernacular, even the bloody AB's are happy to accept loses as long as the RWC is won. So, to attempt to stop this inevitable slide of non RWC games into irrelevance, the League is what is proposed. And it is competing for something tangible, even if not the RWC winning the League final will be something worth fighting for, best rugby team of the year, I guess is the plan.

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    oh good, a shiny new trophy of irrelevance

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    I have a suspicion that the main driver for this is leverage for the Northern Unions to take back some control of their players. Getting players released for "friendlies" is harder than for a test that means something.

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    I'm sceptical that creating a soccer league format will fix it.

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    @antipodean Me too, but I hope it does mean revenue sharing rather than the current set up.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109118471/warren-gatland-in-englands-sights-to-succeed-eddie-jones

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @tim said in NH International Rugby:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109118471/warren-gatland-in-englands-sights-to-succeed-eddie-jones

    Oh the irony.

    It is pantomime season after all.

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