Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host
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@gunner I'm not going to repeat what I said when the bids were announced, but in short, I find it too much concentrated in the North. I'd have preferred South of Auckland, for example, Hamilton and Rotorua. I know Rotorua made a bid (IIRC Tauranga, too). But yeah, Napier would have been great
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@jegga said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Do we need a separate thread for photos of hot female rugby players or is this one all good?
It would be a short thread on its own.
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@stargazer said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@gunner I'm not going to repeat what I said when the bids were announced, but in short, I find it too much concentrated in the North. I'd have preferred South of Auckland, for example, Hamilton and Rotorua. I know Rotorua made a bid (IIRC Tauranga, too). But yeah, Napier would have been great
Fair enough, but then I’d have to complain that it was too concentrated in the upper central North Island 😉
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@stargazer said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@gunner I'm not going to repeat what I said when the bids were announced, but in short, I find it too much concentrated in the North. I'd have preferred South of Auckland, for example, Hamilton and Rotorua. I know Rotorua made a bid (IIRC Tauranga, too). But yeah, Napier would have been great
Similar venues to when we hosted the IRB U20 world cup. Which were Eden Park, Albany and Pukekohe. The crowds were absolutely atrocious.
Only difference here is the addition of Whangarei.
How is it funded? Personally hoping NZRU don't get taken to the cleaners hosting this, because ticket sales won't cover much.
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@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@stargazer said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@gunner I'm not going to repeat what I said when the bids were announced, but in short, I find it too much concentrated in the North. I'd have preferred South of Auckland, for example, Hamilton and Rotorua. I know Rotorua made a bid (IIRC Tauranga, too). But yeah, Napier would have been great
Similar venues to when we hosted the IRB U20 world cup. Which were Eden Park, Albany and Pukekohe. The crowds were absolutely atrocious.
Only difference here is the addition of Whangarei.
How is it funded? Personally hoping NZRU don't get taken to the cleaners hosting this, because ticket sales won't cover much.
I don't see this being any different. I'm all for equity and opportunity, but who seriously wants to watch a WRWC? It's bad enough Namibia etc. are in the RWC...
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Govt on board with funding, which is fair enough.
Government commits to help finance women's Rugby World Cup
The government is committed to lifting the profile of women's sport and will contribute financially to New Zealand hosting the women's rugby world cup, but sports minister Grant Roberston won't reveal how much.
Note: For 2011 RWC govt agreed to cover 2/3rd of any shortfall (covered $20m of the $30m shortfall with NZRU covering $10m).
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@antipodean we had reasonable crowds up here for the U20 Soccer WC with Myanmar here twice.
I assume we wont get a Black Ferns game here, but hopefully we will get Samoa or Tonga which will see big crowds travel like they did in the RWC for Tonga.
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Looking at the NZRU 2015 annual report, which covers the 2014 year when we hosted the 2014 JWC.
Junior World Championship hosting:
- income: $96,000
- expenditure: $4,225,000
- loss: $4,427,000
Auckland just won't watch this stuff.
Not sure how much more expensive the hosting would be if it was Dunedin based or Christchuch based. Or if a Dunedin based tournament would have the hotelier capacity
But if it was:
- Christchurch
- Timaru
- Blenheim
- Nelson
or
- Dunedin
- Invercargill
- Queenstown
- Oamaru
I'd back them to sell more than $96k of tickets.
Assume someone has run the numbers and investigated the infrastructure capacities though.
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@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Other thing to bear in mind, from a big picture perspective, that hosting IRB tournaments , (JWCs, 7s world series, women's world cups, 7s world cups), is a pre-requisite to bidding for the big one.
And being a Tier One Rugby Nation, which Australia isn't.
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@nta said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Other thing to bear in mind, from a big picture perspective, that hosting IRB tournaments , (JWCs, 7s world series, women's world cups, 7s world cups), is a pre-requisite to bidding for the big one.
And being a Tier One Rugby Nation, which Australia isn't.
I almost miss the days when you guys had a bit of backbone.
Agent Robbie is probably the greatest saboteur the world has ever known.
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@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Assume someone has run the numbers and investigated the infrastructure capacities though.
Playing the majority of the games in Auckland will reduce costs for domestic travel and accommodation won't be a problem. The WR suits will prefer staying in 5-star Auckland hotels too.
I would also assume there will be a lot of double-headers or triple-headers as Eden Park isn't cheap to use (refer to test cricket for an example).
They need to make the ticket prices really cheap to get punters through the gates. An empty Eden Park won't be a good look on TV.
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@bovidae said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Assume someone has run the numbers and investigated the infrastructure capacities though.
Playing the majority of the games in Auckland will reduce costs for domestic travel and accommodation won't be a problem. The WR suits will prefer staying in 5-star Auckland hotels too.
I would also assume there will be a lot of double-headers or triple-headers as Eden Park isn't cheap to use (refer to test cricket for an example).
They need to make the ticket prices really cheap to get punters through the gates. An empty Eden Park won't be a good look on TV.
None of that stopped the 2014 U20 world cup being a $4m sink hole.
I assume govt is picking up the cost this time though.
It's probably a moot point until Chch has a stadium. But next time they host this or the U20 JWC I'd like them to investigate Chch as the hub combined with small regional grounds within a a few hours drive.
Aucklanders can't even get home for dinner on time on a Wednesday night, let alone go across town to watch a rugby game. It's the worst choice as a hub.
The JWC in 2014 had 24 games and they sold $96k worth of tickets.
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@bovidae said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
The JWC in 2014 had 24 games and they sold $96k worth of tickets.
Where were the games played? I honestly don't even remember the tournament.
Eden Park, Albany, Pukekohe.
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@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@bovidae said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
The JWC in 2014 had 24 games and they sold $96k worth of tickets.
Where were the games played? I honestly don't even remember the tournament.
Eden Park, Albany, Pukekohe.
I was going to say South Africa won with Handre Pollard as the star. But I just looked up wiki and England pipped SAF in the final.
NZ lost to SAF twice (in pool and in semi).
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@rapido said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
I was going to say South Africa won with Handre Pollard as the star. But I just looked up wiki and England pipped SAF in the final.
NZ lost to SAF twice (in pool and in semi).
Ah, now I remember. I watched the NZ games on TV, as I'd likely do for this tournament.
Using the U20s football WC as an example, taking games to the provinces worked (I went to games myself) but I'm not sure if that tournament made a profit despite very good crowds. FIFA has more money.
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@mariner4life said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
I almost miss the days when you guys had a bit of backbone.
Almost.
Agent Robbie is probably the greatest saboteur the world has ever known.
Agent Raelene is carrying on the legacy brilliantly.
Might be a reason to get back to NZ in 2021.
