The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas
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@higgins He was named in the NZ Māori Rugby League Tournament team in 2013, so I guess that means he's part Māori.
Edited to add that according to a FB post about that team naming, he's Ngati Kauwhata.
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http://www.allblacks.com/News/33273/maori-all-blacks-squad-named-for-historic-tour
Chris Eves (Waikato / Tainui North) - Harbour Tyrel Lomax (Ngai Tuhoe / Muaupoko) - Ta$man Ben May (Ngati Maniapoto / Waikato) - Hawke’s Bay Marcel Renata (Ngati Whanaunga / Ngai Takoto) - Auckland Ross Wright (Ngati Whatua / Ngati Porou) - Northland Robbie Abel * (Ngati Wai, Waikato-Tainui, Ngati Hine) - Auckland Ash Dixon (C) (Ngati Tahinga) - Hawke’s Bay Jackson Hemopo (Tuhourangi / Ngati Wahiao / Ngai Tahu / Ngati Rangi / Ngati Apa ki te Ra To) - Manawatu Pari Pari Parkinson * (Te Whanau a Apanui) - Ta$man Isaia Walker-Leawere * (Ngati Porou) - Wellington Billy Harmon * (Ngai Tahu) - Canterbury Akira Ioane (Ngapuhi / Te Whanau a Apanui) - Auckland Mitchell Karpik * (Rongomaiwahine / Ngati Kahungunu) - Bay of Plenty Hoani Matenga * (Rangitane / Te Whanau a Apanui) - Bay of Plenty Reed Prinsep (Te Rarawa) - Canterbury Bryn Hall (Ngati Ranginui) North Harbour Jonathan Ruru (Ngati Kahungunu / Rongomaiwahine) - Auckland Brad Weber (Ngati Porou) - Hawke’s Bay Otere Black (Ngai Tuhoe / Te Whanau a Apanui / Ngati Tuwharetoa) - Manawatu Joshua Ioane* (Te Rarawa) - Otago Matthew Lansdown* (Te Atiawa) - Waikato Matt Proctor (Ngai Te Rangi / Ngapuhi) - Wellington Rob Thompson (Ngati Kahungunu / Nga Rauru) - Manawatu Teihorangi Walden (Te Atiawa) - Taranaki Jonah Lowe* (Ngati Pikiao) - Hawke’s Bay Nehe Milner-Skudder (Ngati Porou / Tapuika) - Manawatu Shaun Stevenson (Ngapuhi) - North Harbour Travelling as a replacement for the USA leg only, is Canterbury wing Caleb Makene, of Ngapuhi descent. -
Huh? Ash Dixon? Is he suddenly not injured anymore? Hmm, that might be handy for the NPC finals.
Ross Wright also off the injury list, that's good news. I'd rather have him in the squad than Paranihi.They picked only 3 locks. Price is the unlucky one to miss out.
Aye, Karpik is Māori? Geez, an even blonder version than the McKenzies haha. Didn't know that about Abel either. That's good. Kereru-Symes is a bit too young and green anyway. His time will come. Royal is the unlucky one; I thought he had a good season.
Douglas is the unlucky loosie to miss out IMO. Kara Pryor, too. I'd never have picked Matenga, but he's from BOP, just like the coach. There had to be a home province selection somewhere.
Karpik's selection is more justified. And they're the only two players from BOP.I looked up Josh Ioane and couldn't find any info on him being Māori, so I thought he wasn't. Great to see him picked ahead of JGB!
Landsdown, didn't know he was Māori, but they picked him, not Laumape. Maybe they didn't know Ngani was Māori either.
Absolutely awesome to see Jonah Lowe get a spot in the squad! Hawke's Bay boy in Canterbury colours Makene as travelling reserve. He's the one that can cover 10 as well in case of injury. I think Waaka is a bit unlucky.
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@stargazer yeah Abel was being discussed in another thread, he is of the wider Going clan from Northland
Great news for Ross (and Northland) unsure on the injury status of Kara, although TBF his form hasnt been consistent this year IMO
Plenty of cross over from that squad and the wider AB's, which brings into question the decision to put Akira just here as well, something doesnt add up, which means there has got to be something more to it.
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@kiwimurph said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
Billy Harmon
How did Douglas miss out? I don't get Prinsep but don't have a problem with Matenga. Actually, on Karpik if you look at his face (like the McKenzies and Tony Brown) you can see the Maori despite the blonde hair.
Hall and Weber are in the Maori team - how the fudge is Hall in the ABs as well?
Maybe they just thought Ioane was related to the other Ioanes and chucked him in anyway?
A surprisingly decent team I think.
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@nepia said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@kiwimurph said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
Billy Harmon
How did Douglas miss out? I don't get Prinsep but don't have a problem with Matenga. Actually, on Karpik if you look at his face (like the McKenzies and Tony Brown) you can see the Maori despite the blonde hair.
Hall and Weber are in the Maori team - how the fudge is Hall in the ABs as well?
Maybe they just thought Ioane was related to the other Ioanes and chucked him in anyway?
A surprisingly decent team I think.
I agree. A good mix of experience and youth. Old heads and newbies. No weird, unbalanced selections that will force players to play out of position like last year. And just as I predicted, an extra player in the squad compare to last year, which is necessary due to that overlap with the extended ABs squad for the Japan match.
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@nepia said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@hooroo said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
Wow! Hoani made the team. Good for him.
You gotta have a guitar player on a Maori tour.
The lad can sing too! Incredible voice. Used to be part of Six60 I think?
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@taniwharugby said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@stargazer yeah Abel was being discussed in another thread, he is of the wider Going clan from Northland
Yeah, I just read this: https://www.brumbies.com.au/2015/11/robbie-abel-signs-with-the-brumbies/
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@hooroo said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@nepia said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@hooroo said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
Wow! Hoani made the team. Good for him.
You gotta have a guitar player on a Maori tour.
The lad can sing too! Incredible voice. Used to be part of Six60 I think?
Yep, that's why I made the post ... it would have been random otherwise.
@stargazer said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@nepia said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@kiwimurph said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
Billy Harmon
How did Douglas miss out? I don't get Prinsep but don't have a problem with Matenga. Actually, on Karpik if you look at his face (like the McKenzies and Tony Brown) you can see the Maori despite the blonde hair.
Hall and Weber are in the Maori team - how the fudge is Hall in the ABs as well?
Maybe they just thought Ioane was related to the other Ioanes and chucked him in anyway?
A surprisingly decent team I think.
I agree. A good mix of experience and youth. Old heads and newbies. No weird, unbalanced selections that will force players to play out of position like last year. And just as I predicted, an extra player in the squad compare to last year, which is necessary due to that overlap with the extended ABs squad for the Japan match.
The ABs have a lock on that this year.
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@rapido said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
Ross Wright makes that squad size selectable. Without him covering prop and hooker trying to balance the squad of 27 with 5 in Japan is a nightmare. As I found yesterday in my attempts.
that's a pretty decent skill set to have as a pro player! First since Aled de Megamunch?
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@mariner4life said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
that's a pretty decent skill set to have as a pro player! First since Aled de Megamunch?
McCartney & Coltman
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@duluth said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
@mariner4life said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
that's a pretty decent skill set to have as a pro player! First since Aled de Megamunch?
McCartney & Coltman
okay i didn't know that. To what level? NPC only?
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McCartney started at LH at SR level. Also played TH at NPC level
Coltman might only be NPC? Not sure
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@duluth said in The Māori All Blacks' tour to the Americas:
McCarney started at LH at SR level. Also played TH at NPC level
Coltman might only be NPC? Not sure
all three front row positions is pretty decent.
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@duluth maybe also Pleasents-Tate??
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Good call, I forgot about him. He had a few seasons as a prop before moving to Auckland
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okay so not that great after all. As you were...
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