Auckland v Tasman
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@shark said in Auckland v Ta$man:
I'm not trolling. I'm genuinely surprised how much is being read into the first few rounds of the competition for Auckland. After all, they made the final as recently as 2015 and what's happened since then?
If you are not trolling you would have read the multiple posts talking about how young this Auckland side is, the fans expectations set at making the semis, nothing more, and 90% of the comments being happy that last years disaster is behind us.
Most were expecting to lose a close game against Ta$man too.
Plenty of us also said it’s too early to read anything in the early rounds due to the quality of the opposition. You ignoring all of that makes your trolling a bit stupid.
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@kirwan said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@shark said in Auckland v Ta$man:
I'm not trolling. I'm genuinely surprised how much is being read into the first few rounds of the competition for Auckland. After all, they made the final as recently as 2015 and what's happened since then?
If you are not trolling you would have read the multiple posts talking about how young this Auckland side is, the fans expectations set at making the semis, nothing more, and 90% of the comments being happy that last years disaster is behind us.
Most were expecting to lose a close game against Ta$man too.
Plenty of us also said it’s too early to read anything in the early rounds due to the quality of the opposition. You ignoring all of that makes your trolling a bit stupid.
So there aren't numerous posts anointing the coach and/or coaches as demi-Gods, average players being talked up for SR, and you yourself suggested the Blues dump Umaga for an immediate change in fortune ala Auckland...? Highly, HIGHLY presumptuous.
And I'M stupid??
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I love how attempting to bring balance and perspective to a thread is considered trolling by the way. Sure I did that by way of a cheeky comment, but the point stands. It's early days; calm the down.
Beat Canterbury also next week and Auckland fans will have something to genuinely get excited about, but don't expect there to be a flow-on effect to the Blues, or potentially long term ramifications in the NPC.
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It’s a weird point of view to not expect improvements from better coaches, when you look at the instant improvements to teams like the Chiefs and Crusaders when they dropped average to poor coaches.
Same thing will happen when we drop Umaga, assuming we keep Coventry and McDonald. If we just do another celebrity coach, then I agree it will be business as usual.
As for Auckland, at the risk of repeating myself, we all have measured expectations (I’ve said semis is a par many times). We are enjoying a dramatic improvement from the last two years.
Even if we lose against Canterbury (and I’d not be surprised, I expected a Ta$man loss too), as long as I see the improvements in defence and the set piece, and progress being made, I’ll be content.
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@shark The thing is, is that I think most Auckland fans on here don't expect to win next week (myself included) and I don't think any of us expect them to go all the way in this comp. All that's happened on this thread is that Auckland fans have gotten excited over upsetting the competition favourites by a massive margin. Is there any harm in that? Also, no-one here expects Auckland's form in this comp after the first 4 games to flow on to SR, no-one's that stupid.
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Maybe I am underestimating Canterbury, but I am expecting Auckland to win. This is not a good Canterbury team (especially the backs) and aren't they at the 'three games in a week' stage of the season?
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@shark said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@kirwan said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@shark said in Auckland v Ta$man:
I'm not trolling. I'm genuinely surprised how much is being read into the first few rounds of the competition for Auckland. After all, they made the final as recently as 2015 and what's happened since then?
If you are not trolling you would have read the multiple posts talking about how young this Auckland side is, the fans expectations set at making the semis, nothing more, and 90% of the comments being happy that last years disaster is behind us.
Most were expecting to lose a close game against Ta$man too.
Plenty of us also said it’s too early to read anything in the early rounds due to the quality of the opposition. You ignoring all of that makes your trolling a bit stupid.
So there aren't numerous posts anointing the coach and/or coaches as demi-Gods, average players being talked up for SR, and you yourself suggested the Blues dump Umaga for an immediate change in fortune ala Auckland...? Highly, HIGHLY presumptuous.
And I'M stupid??
It's not actually about the results - it's about two things - how the team is well drilled and how the team shows serious ticker in defense. It's basically the exact opposite of the Blues.
What it is showing is the impact of some decent coaching. You may not know cos you may not have watched Auckland the last two years under Nick White but they were abysmally coached. Very similar to Umaga's Blues. Auckland fans have had to put up with some straight trash coaching the last few years. I think Auckland fans are allowed to get excited about a team that looks well coached and plays like a team. It might be run of the mill for the rest of NZ but for Auckland fans its a refreshingly new.
For what it's worth I don't think they'll beat Canterbury next week.
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@crazy-horse said in Auckland v Ta$man:
Maybe I am underestimating Canterbury, but I am expecting Auckland to win. This is not a good Canterbury team (especially the backs) and aren't they at the 'three games in a week' stage of the season?
I agree. They've lost a lot of players (particularly losing, Mo'unga, Bird, and to a degree also L Whitelock and Thompson has weakened the team immensely) and I'm not convinced yet that they have the right coach.
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@crazy-horse said in Auckland v Ta$man:
Maybe I am underestimating Canterbury, but I am expecting Auckland to win. This is not a good Canterbury team (especially the backs) and aren't they at the 'three games in a week' stage of the season?
Canterbury on a four day turnaround - I'd have Auckland as favourites, even though the game is in ChCh.
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@chris-b said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@crazy-horse said in Auckland v Ta$man:
Maybe I am underestimating Canterbury, but I am expecting Auckland to win. This is not a good Canterbury team (especially the backs) and aren't they at the 'three games in a week' stage of the season?
Canterbury on a four day turnaround - I'd have Auckland as favourites, even though the game is in ChCh.
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@chris-b said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@broughie I'm just agreeing with Crazy Horse and Stargazer.
Canterbury don't look as formidable this year and that short turnaround is really tough.
We had our best performance on the last of the quick turnarounds, so I'm not sure it's that huge a factor. Whatever the schedule, it's going to be an upset if Canterbury lose at home.
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@kirwan said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@chris-b said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@broughie I'm just agreeing with Crazy Horse and Stargazer.
Canterbury don't look as formidable this year and that short turnaround is really tough.
We had our best performance on the last of the quick turnarounds, so I'm not sure it's that huge a factor. Whatever the schedule, it's going to be an upset if Canterbury lose at home.
Fark, there'll be some Export Gold drunk if we get over Canterbury at home.
Can't see it though. I'm on a race to the underdog bottom
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@chris-b said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@crazy-horse said in Auckland v Ta$man:
Maybe I am underestimating Canterbury, but I am expecting Auckland to win. This is not a good Canterbury team (especially the backs) and aren't they at the 'three games in a week' stage of the season?
Canterbury on a four day turnaround - I'd have Auckland as favourites, even though the game is in ChCh.
That's as bad as the years Meninga would try and play Qld as underdogs. Despite the game being in Brisbane. And that Qld team being completely stacked. And on a years long streak.
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@mariner4life Except the Canterbury team isn't stacked this year.
Ta$man beat Canterbury comfortably and lost quite heavily to Auckland.
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@bovidae said in Auckland v Ta$man:
@nzzp said in Auckland v Ta$man:
Fark, there'll be some Export Gold drunk if we get over Canterbury at home.
Saving the good stuff for a special occasion?
I didn't say by me!
