What's happened to Waikato Rugby?
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@chester-draws said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@kruse said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@dice said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@crucial They already have free education at Waikato Uni...
Not everybody wants a degree in milking cows.
Bit rich flagging Waikato as rural when the alternative is .... Lincoln!
Even richer if I was to admit I went to high school in Taranaki, and uni at Massey.
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I think part of the issue is the massive debt the WRU still has which dates back to the Super Rugby contracting switch. This limits the ability to contract players thus it becomes a recruitment and retention problem. It also limits the investments the WRU can make in other areas
I am not sure Jono Gibbes is a poor coach....he's probably not working with the best cattle.
Both Roger Randle and Nathan White have coached on the club scene....so there seems to be a pathway there.
There has to be something wrong there though. This is now getting really embarrassing. I wish I knew how to fix it.
I couldn't watch the second half last night.
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@oleoleole said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
I think part of the issue is the massive debt the WRU still has which dates back to the Super Rugby contracting switch. This limits the ability to contract players thus it becomes a recruitment and retention problem. It also limits the investments the WRU can make in other areas
It seems Waikato has been turning around it's financial performance in the last couple of years. However as you mentioned they've had to squeeze in some important areas
This from the Deloitte report:
Waikato had the greatest decrease in growing the game expenditure, dropping $0.3m from FY16. Reviewing Waikatoโs financials it is reasonable to determine that the union needed to secure its own financial position before investing back into the community, which demonstrates the tough decisions our gameโs treasurers have
There's a thread on the Deloitte report here https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2542/deloitte-state-of-unions-report
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@duluth I had heard (unsubstantiated) that Waikato senior rugby is struggling for numbers in terms of putting out Seniors and Reserves week in week out. Now I know most Unions have this issue and I discussed it in the last round of our club season, but from what I have heard is the Waikato Union is at one of its lowest points...which is a viscious circle.
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@oleoleole said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
I think part of the issue is the massive debt the WRU still has which dates back to the Super Rugby contracting switch.
The historical debt was in excess of $1M, a lot of which was owed to the HCC for rental of Waikato Stadium.
I couldn't watch the second half last night.
I lasted 60 mins.
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@crucial said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
2016 u19โs champs
2017 u19โs runners upNowadays NPC teams are players in their early 20โs plus a handful of veterans. You would expect the u19 results to be translating into an ok NPC side
As long as these young players don't suddenly find a 'free' education at Lincoln dangled under their noses
ALB, McKenzie, Tucker....
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@shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@crucial said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
2016 u19โs champs
2017 u19โs runners upNowadays NPC teams are players in their early 20โs plus a handful of veterans. You would expect the u19 results to be translating into an ok NPC side
As long as these young players don't suddenly find a 'free' education at Lincoln dangled under their noses
ALB, McKenzie, Tucker....
Yeah, keep your hands off our poaches!
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@duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
Tough draw coming up for Waikato. Two games against first division teams with a quick turnaround
vs Wellington (Hamilton) on Wednesday
vs Taranaki (New Plymouth) four days laterThen another four day turnaround and they have Hawkes Bay in Hamilton
That smells of Hawkes Bay getting the Shield then.....
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@hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@duluth said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
Tough draw coming up for Waikato. Two games against first division teams with a quick turnaround
vs Wellington (Hamilton) on Wednesday
vs Taranaki (New Plymouth) four days laterThen another four day turnaround and they have Hawkes Bay in Hamilton
That smells of Hawkes Bay getting the Shield then.....
haha, love the optimism and pessimism all in one small post!
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@hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
Chiefs suck.
Don't know why that made me laugh but it did.
It just occurred to me that I read it as if Adam Sandler was saying it
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@hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@hooroo said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
@shark said in What's happened to Waikato Rugby?:
Chiefs suck.
Don't know why that made me laugh but it did.
It just occurred to me that I read it as if Adam Sandler was saying it
Was supposed to be like the "you can do it!" guy
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Looks like this was the thread to get Waikato rugby back on track.
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@african-monkey Not if you're looking for anything but total apathy from their supporters!