2018 Black Ferns
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The crowd size at Eden Park for the Black Ferns v Wallaroos test on Saturday, 22 October 2016 was 12,500. In 2018 that increased to 28,000 (more than double).
In 2016, the test started at 5.05pm; in 2018 it started at 5.00pm.
In 2016, the women's test was followed by an All Blacks v Wallabies (Bledisloe III) test. In 2018, it was also followed by an All Blacks v Wallabies test (Bledisloe II).
In 2016, there was no Mitre 10 Cup game played at the same time. In 2018, the women's test was played at almost same time as Waikato v North Harbour (broadcast on another Sky Sport Channel).
By the way, the Wallaroos v Black Ferns test in Sydney was also played at the same time as a Mitre 10 Cup game (Bay of Plenty v Taranaki), which was also broadcast on another Sky Sports Channel.So the fact that there was a men's test after the women's test is no factor in the increase in numbers, as there was also a men's test afterwards in 2016. Despite the fact that there was a Mitre 10 Cup game, which probably drew a lot of viewership away from the women's test, there was still a record viewership for a women's test match of almost 250,000 viewers for the Sydney test.
I really don't understand why some people have such hostile reactions to other people liking to watch women's test matches, now and then, and to that number of people increasing. Does it harm anyone? And so what if more people watch Mitre 10 Cup games (or not)? That doesn't alter the fact at all that there was a record tv viewership for a women's test, does it? Really, what's the problem?
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@stargazer said in 2018 Black Ferns:
Really, what's the problem?
Steve Hansen begging the PM for funding so we don't lose our best players could be one?
Dunno, can't escape an instinct that it's rather a charade or somehow contrived, but I realise how callous that remark is. I keep getting stuck on the gross inferiority of the product. Yet I'm told it's worthy.
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@siam said in 2018 Black Ferns:
@stargazer said in 2018 Black Ferns:
Really, what's the problem?
Steve Hansen begging the PM for funding so we don't lose our best players could be one?
What does that have to do with the Black Ferns?
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@kiwimurph nothing if the black ferns "department" is financially self sufficient.
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@siam was hardly begging...he has a valid point though when you consider the funding for other high performance sports, and then the Americas Cup.
I think it's the Irish model that I like, where the player gets a big chunk of thier tax back if they retire in NZ.
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@siam said in 2018 Black Ferns:
@kiwimurph nothing if the black ferns "department" is financially self sufficient.
I'd think having them play a double header alongside AB test match would be a good way of keeping costs down?
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@bovidae said in 2018 Black Ferns:
NZR gets tax payer money for their Olympic sevens programmes.
Didn't Tew outline a number of areas where NZR actually benefit from govt funding in one of the articles (I can't remember which).
Odd that Hansen and Tew have picked now to bring this up and not when Key was PM and down to fellate any AB he could get his lips on.
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@nepia the snippet I heard from Hansen it seemed like one of those half joking cheeky comments that you dont expect a positive response for, delivered with his dry mumbly way.
St Cindy said on TV that like most of these organisations they have official channels to apply for funding through and hadnt received one from NZR.
Plus they do fund grassroots as well, not just Olympics.
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@taniwharugby said in 2018 Black Ferns:
@nepia the snippet I heard from Hansen it seemed like one of those half joking cheeky comments that you dont expect a positive response for, delivered with his dry mumbly way.
St Cindy said on TV that like most of these organisations they have official channels to apply for funding through and hadnt received one from NZR.
Plus they do fund grassroots as well, not just Olympics.
Yeah, I just assume when these come up that a journo asks a question, he answers, and then it gets printed as a statement.
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@chris-b M10/Super/ABs would be under thier own private scheme wouldnt they, if not, NZR's ACC levies would be massive anyway due to the sheer number of 'workplace injuries'
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@taniwharugby Dunno. Isn't it compulsory?
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@booboo just curious how they get to this figure. I had 16 guys at my house watching the warriors. How do they know they are all there. I call bullshit on this. Woman’s rugby is a crap watch. They can ram it down our throats all they want but it will always be average footy at best. Most 1st XV would put 50 on the black ferns.
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@chchfanatic The fact that you don't know how they make these estimates of the viewing audience (neither do I), doesn't mean they're incorrect, just because they don't suit your views on women's rugby. They have been confirmed by two sources, according to that article and confirm the trend of increasing tv viewers. It's remarkable how some people who hate watching women's rugby so much, can't wait to spew their dissatisfaction in a thread on women's rugby. So what, if they get more viewers; does it hurt you or stop you from watching something else?
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@stargazer I’m commenting more on the article than the actual rugby. How can they calculate it when they don’t know how many people are watching each tv. It’s like they’re trying to justify woman’s rugby. Why do they have to make it into a league vs union.
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@chchfanatic said in 2018 Black Ferns:
@stargazer I’m commenting more on the article than the actual rugby. How can they calculate it when they don’t know how many people are watching each tv. It’s like they’re trying to justify woman’s rugby. Why do they have to make it into a league vs union.
The same way almost all statistics are calculated, by extrapolating data from a predetermined sample?
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World Rugby considering Rugby Championship-style women's competition
World Rugby is hoping to build a Rugby Championship-style competition for women sooner rather than later, according to women’s rugby boss Katie Sadleir. Northern Hemisphere nations play a women’s Six Nations tournament annually but Southern Hemisphere teams have lacked regular Tests in the past, with Australia and New Zealand the only regular XVs programs down under. The biggest difficulty for Australia and New Zealand is their distance from the Six Nations countries, often making the cost of travelling north for matches outside of World Cups prohibitive. It would be unlikely for the Southern Hemisphere to exactly replicate its Rugby Championship for women, with South Africa and Argentina having little presence when it comes to Women’s XVs, but World Rugby is looking at options to introduce a regular competition similar to the Six Nations. The notion of an annual competition in the Oceania region is something World Rugby is looking at seriously, especially with New Zealand and Australia bidding for the next Women’s Rugby World Cup.“We've got six regions but we’re also looking at the potential for cross-regional competitions and I know that New Zealand has been having conversations with Australia. “They've been having conversations with other teams in the Northern Hemisphere to see what is possible and World rugby is keen to support those initiatives.” Australia has been vocal about its need for more Tests with Wallaroos coach Dwayne Nestor hoping for a five-Test schedule in 2019. World Rugby has delved into some reserve funding as it looks to help the women’s game grow across the globe. “There has been no competition (in the Southern Hemisphere) so we’re picking up the international competition calendar and sitting down with the top unions and saying, ‘What makes sense here?’.
The Southern Hemisphere is set to host its first Women's Rugby World Cup in 2021 with Australia and New Zealand both bidding for the tournament. .. .. "I've had a look at both bids. There's a New Zealand and Australia bid -they're both very impressive. "I'm particularly interested in the impact beyond and I think the things that both of the bids are trying to do are really good in terms of developing rugby within the union but also looking at the wider Asia-Pacific region, so fantastic. "The decision's made by Council. Our role is just to evaluate information and make sure they've got the information presented to them in an objective way." The World Rugby Council will announce the 2021 Women's Rugby World Cup host on November 14 after its final meetings of the year in Dublin.
