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@stargazer thanks for posting that. I think we saw evidence at test level that the context is being taken into account better as well. Certainly with the Naholo tackle on Folau, Peyper quite clearly said that he judged intent and how Folau added to the movement rather than just looking and the act and ending.
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@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
If the action is deliberate and dangerous and with force = RED CARD.
• If the action is reckless but still dangerous but with limited/mild force = YELLOW CARD.
• If the action is unintentional and low level = Penalty only.This is why the system is fucked... even the guidelines assume there is a direct correlation between intent/result.
What does the ref do when the action is deliberate and dangerous but is mistimed or misses (no force, limited/mild force)?
When the action is unintentional but results in a dangerous result/significant force?
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@crucial are those directives up to TRC though, that is for M10 cup.
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@taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@crucial are those directives up to TRC though, that is for M10 cup.
I don't know. I just thought maybe the discussions have altered the way the elite refs are working without being made official yet.
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@crucial Was alot of chat on RS yesterday saying it should have been a YC....which I dont agree with due to mitigating circumstances, but as in the other thread, I thought he was lucky as he tackled a player that went well past horizontal.
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Steve Hansen and his Wallabies rival Michael Cheika will probably be pleased at a New Zealand referees' directive to consider "context" – read intent – when ruling on foul play at Mitre 10 cup level and below.
They'll hope it proves a success and continues into Super Rugby and the international game after a June series riven by controversy for both nations.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12110305
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Wahoo Northland rated higher than Canterbury!
Mitre 10 Cup Power Rankings - Week One
Throughout the campaign, we will rank each team on a weekly basis based on their performances to provide a power rankings structure for the entirety of the tournament.
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@bovidae said in Manawatu v Waikato:
Anyone know if the Manawatu player has been cited for the cheap shot on Tucker?
Manawatu lock Liam Hallam-Eames has been suspended for four matches for striking an opposition player in his team’s Mitre 10 Cup match against Waikato on Saturday 18 August. Hallam-Eames was cited under law 9.12 for striking a player with his arm in the first minute of the match. Manawatu won 24-19. New Zealand Rugby Duty Judicial Officer Chris Morris said it was a deliberate strike to the head of the opposition player who as a result was required to leave the field and failed a Head Injury Assessment (HIA). Taking into account Hallam-Eames admission of guilt and clean record, Morris reduced the suspension from six to four matches. Hallam-Eames’s suspension includes all rugby and means he will miss Manawatu’s matches against Taranaki, Otago, Canterbury and Northland and be available to return to play in Week Six of the Mitre 10 Cup. -
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I hope the TMO has been stood doen as well for incompetence. I saw what happened so I can't believe he missed it looking at the same footage. Hallam-Eames should have been red-carded when you consider his punishment. -
@bovidae Unfortunately, at M10 Cup, the TMO can only act on referral from the referee, unlike Super Rugby where the TMO can initiate a referral.
So unless the referee or AR's picked up the incident and referred it to the TMO (which they should have done) there was nothing the TMO could do.
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Released All Blacks
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Counties Manukau vs Taranaki, August 29
Ardie Savea, Wellington vs Southland, August 31
Luke Whitelock, Canterbury vs Bay of Plenty, September 1
Nehe Milner-Skudder and Liam Coltman, Manawatu vs Otago, September 1
Shannon Frizell and Tim Perry, Ta$man vs North Harbour, September 1
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Home is where the heart is for Manawatu's Rob Thompson
When it comes to provincial rugby, not many players choose to turn their back on a team as dominant as Canterbury. But midfielder Rob Thompson's done exactly that, returning home to play for Manawatu in this year's Mitre 10 Cup. Thompson revealed to Newshub his plans for life after rugby - and a tough personal loss - made the decision as straightforward as they come. Watch the video above for the full story. -
Injury update: Otago
Hooker Liam Coltman will be available to play for Otago this week but halfback Josh Renton is set for a significant stint on the sideline.The hooker has not played for Otago since 2016 after missing all of last year for Otago because of an ankle injury. Coltman will be in need of a run, having last played for the Highlanders in their quarterfinal more than a month ago.Renton injured his thumb in the match against Hawke's Bay at Forsyth Barr Stadium and the thumb was in a cast yesterday. He is expected to have surgery this week and it is up in the air whether he will be back for Otago this season. With the short turnarounds in the competition, and everyone playing a midweek match, the games march on quickly and the regular season will be finished in just over six weeks. Otago has back-up halfbacks in its squad in Taieri halfback Kurt Hammer and Harbour halfback Melani Matavao. Both are inexperienced at this level though, and neither have started a game for Otago. Matavao has been selected for the Samoan squad for the Pacific Nations Cup in June and played for Samoa in its tour of the northern hemisphere last year. Utility back Michael Collins was back training yesterday. He picked up a very minor fracture to his cheekbone in the pre-season game of three halves in Christchurch. His experience has been greatly missed, and when he will get back on the field is still unclear. Lock Josh Larsen (elbow) and flanker James Lentjes (neck) are still a significant time away from getting back on the field.
Coltman available for Otago
Hooker Liam Coltman will be available to play for Otago this week but halfback Josh Renton is set for a significant stint on the sideline. The All...
