Netball
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12093183
Sounds like the team wanted stronger leadership and direction from the coach
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Just as well Southby realised the gig was up, even if it took a while... Another classic "interviewed well" gone wrong - not a phenomenon unique to sports!
Reading the article, I get the impression that while Southby wasn't ready yet, the Board and players need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
This provides some commentary on the report, but to me, the most telling quote from the report I came across is "Netball in New Zealand continues to struggle to embrace a true high performance culture - the no compromises, no shortcuts philosophy so much a part of many elite sports in not yet ingrained deeply enough within netball in New Zealand". To make matters worse, the chair from 2008 said that a review back then identified a similar issue.
Might be time for more players to stop making excuses and step up.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12093879
So the coach was doing a great job, allowing the players to lead, but the assistant acknowledges they knew the playing group lacked experience..... 🤔 so why then are we here? 🙄
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@canefan That strategy might have worked well when they had Casey and Laura and Irene etc, but this squad didn't have that calibre of player or leader. I actually felt sorry for Maria in the shooting circle, having to be GS and GA because that other chick couldn't hit the side of a barn. The midcourt was a shambles too, way too often we would get a turnover in the opposition goal circle, only for it to be fucked up in the centre third.
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@canefan That strategy might have worked well when they had Casey and Laura and Irene etc, but this squad didn't have that calibre of player or leader. I actually felt sorry for Maria in the shooting circle, having to be GS and GA because that other chick couldn't hit the side of a barn. The midcourt was a shambles too, way too often we would get a turnover in the opposition goal circle, only for it to be fucked up in the centre third.
Exactly. The coach has to recognize what she has to work with, not use an approach she learned and uses as a one size fits all
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Casey said she wouldn't be coming back if Southby was still in charge. No doubt that Taurua's pending appointment was the catalyst for the return of Kopua and Langman.
My understanding was that it was a netball NZ rule that kept Langman out due to her playing in Australia. The last tenure has been a humbling experience and perhaps Taurua has insisted the rule be squashed
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I wonder if it is possible for NZ to play their domestic comp at a different time of the year to the Aussies? That way, for the ones that are good enough, NZers could get a contract in Aus and still be able to play the local NZ comp.
The Silver Ferns need as many players as possible exposed to the Aussie comp. I fear NZ is falling behind more every year.
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@bovidae could be the review highlighted how stupid and knobbling the rule was to the Ferns. Would we still be looking for a new coach if JS had LL playing and they'd managed to finish with a bronze medal? Probably not. JS is the scapegoat for NNZs stubborn attitude.
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Langman moved back to NZ a couple of mths ago breaking the last year of her Oz contract. This is therefore more of a tweaking of the rule rather than a total abandonment. She didn't play the just completed season but is available for a local side going forward whereas previously she wasn't
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@northlandallday Nah, Southby is shit but the NNZ board that appointed her need to take responsibility. Ironically two of them are no longer involved with NNZ.
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reading between the lines it looks like kapua didnt want to be involved with southby. Southby biggest problem she let one player dominate and never/couldnt pull her into line. That player is still in team but i wouldnt expect Taurua /Langman/Kapua to let this continue .
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@ploughboy said in Netball:
reading between the lines it looks like kapua didnt want to be involved with southby. Southby biggest problem she let one player dominate and never/couldnt pull her into line. That player is still in team but i wouldnt expect Taurua /Langman/Kapua to let this continue .
Don't be cryptic, just tell us the player.
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Sounds like Kopua threw a tanty because her choice for coach didn't get selected for the job. Now that her coach is taking over the reins she's putting her hand up. This looks like Kopua and LL actively worked against the Ferns by not being available. Then there's Maria, who is doing her own thing and coming in and out as she want's but um at least she made herself available unlike the other 2.
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@northlandallday That's a fairly unusual take on things.
Netball NZ wouldn't let Langman play.
I think Kopua wrecked her knee in her final test (to date) and then got pregnant.
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@northlandallday said in Netball:
Sounds like Kopua threw a tanty because her choice for coach didn't get selected for the job. Now that her coach is taking over the reins she's putting her hand up. This looks like Kopua and LL actively worked against the Ferns by not being available. Then there's Maria, who is doing her own thing and coming in and out as she want's but um at least she made herself available unlike the other 2.
With respect it sounds like fake news to me. LL went to Oz, wanted to keep playing for NZ IIRC as it was reported, but was shunned by NZN
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@ploughboy said in Netball:
reading between the lines it looks like kapua didnt want to be involved with southby. Southby biggest problem she let one player dominate and never/couldnt pull her into line. That player is still in team but i wouldnt expect Taurua /Langman/Kapua to let this continue .
Don't be cryptic, just tell us the player.
Reading between the lines I'm guessing Tutaia
