Super Rugby News
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@machpants said in Super Rugby News:
Yeah that was are card all day, refs really wimped out there
I just saw the video. Red all day long under the new laws - can't believe they called that a yellow on the field.
This is getting me to wonder why we have a TMO. They need to get it right to be effective, and it does rob fans and players of the moment of joy (or sadness). Maybe needs to be to avoid howlers again, but it doesn't seem sensible that a tackle like that can be ruled a YC on the field.
Also, where was the TMO in the final Lions test??? We wuz robbed!
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@taniwharugby Geez, that's a terribly written article. Clutching at straws.
The Major League Rugby competition isn't starting in 2019; in fact, it started two weeks ago.
American rugby is (still) of a low level; probably way inferior to that of Australia, and maybe even inferior to that of the Sunwolves. Who in the Southern Hemisphere and Europe would want to watch American teams being butchered in an expanded SR competition? Inclusion of American teams in Super Rugby would only serve the American audience (until they get sick of their teams losing to those of other countries all the time), and therefore, American sponsors. If Sanzaar wants to ignore the fans in the SH again, and goes for the American dollar, then they'll go ahead. If it wants to keep the competion interesting, or make it more interesting, for rugby fans in the SH, inclusion of American teams is not the way to go. At least, not until the quality of rugby in North America is significantly better than it is now.
If the likes of Pichot want to raise the profile of rugby in the Americas, and want to grow the game in both American continents, then organise an all-American competition. The Jaguares will be the champions for the next 5-10 years or so, although maybe Argentina will not be so keen? If being part of the Rugby Championship has lifted the level of Argentinian rugby, then maybe including the Jaguares in an all-American competition wouldn't be such a good idea.
And then the argument that Argentina's participation in the Rugby Championship has lifted the level of the Argentinian sevens team? How exactly? How many of the Pumas are currently playing for their Sevens team? I think it's a safe bet to say there won't be many.
Another thing: is 14,811 people watching a Premiership game between London Irish and Saracens really a significant crowd? Maybe in the US, but globally it isn't that much?
By the way, here's a better article about this subject:
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TAB odds on winning the regular season and the title are quite interesting.
Regular season:
Canes $1.40
Crusaders $3.75
Highlanders $12
Chiefs $17I reckon the Canes, while currently well placed, are pretty inflated - especially compared to the Chiefs. Canes have got a tricky draw from here - including away games against all three of these rival franchises. If we see Beauden hobbling off any time in the next few weeks, those odds will plummet.
To win the overall title:
Canes $2.25
Crusaders $3.75
Highlanders $6
Chiefs $6.50
Lions $9
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@chris-b said in Super Rugby News:
TAB odds on winning the regular season and the title are quite interesting.
Regular season:
Canes $1.40
Crusaders $3.75
Highlanders $12
Chiefs $17I reckon the Canes, while currently well placed, are pretty inflated - especially compared to the Chiefs. Canes have got a tricky draw from here - including away games against all three of these rival franchises. If we see Beauden hobbling off any time in the next few weeks, those odds will plummet.
To win the overall title:
Canes $2.25
Crusaders $3.75
Highlanders $6
Chiefs $6.50
Lions $9
Tahs $18I may have to get a tea and biscuits account.
Saders looks pretty undervalued there, given that they've hung in their with the injuries they have.
Lions have been really disappointing, and I can't see them getting beyond a home semi (if they make it that far).
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@gt12 Problem with injuries is that every time you play you're likely to end up with another couple in the injury ward.
You've just got to hope that they're guys you can cover adequately.
One good thing about guys in the injury ward is that at least they're usually on the comeback trail and are not likely to get injured in the meantime.
The French tests are likely to shuffle the pack a bit given the expectation that we'll probably see half a dozen ABs injured, but otherwise allowing space for quite a few casualties to return.
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Near two years of frustration, borne from prolonged concussions and the crippling ACL injury he continues to battle, have seen the world-class All Blacks hooker chart some clear future goals. One of which involves joining the fire service. Short-term, Coles has come to the realisation he will not feature for the Hurricanes this year – aiming instead to begin his on-field comeback with the Wellington Lions in the Mitre 10 Cup after a probable nine-month recovery.
Long-term, Coles is mapping plans to become a fireman in post-rugby life. When the time eventually comes to swap the ball for the hose, he is sure to be a welcome addition to the unsung industry. Becoming a firefighter landed on Coles' radar largely because of former Hurricanes team-mate Reggie Goodes, the front-rower heading that way himself after being forced to retire earlier this year following a series of concussions.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12045165
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Seen a post on FB that said Matt Matich has been called into Chiefs for their trip to SA.
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https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/05/05/genia-to-only-miss-three-games-with-injury/
That'll make a big dif to the Wallas come Ireland time - not a winning difference but still. Won't help them long term with Cheika refusing to build a back up 9 or 10, and Phipps doesn't count
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
Seen a post on FB that said Matt Matich has been called into Chiefs for their trip to SA.
I wonder if they will use him as an openside? Cane and Boshier aren't travelling and Karpik had a head knock recently.
I've always thought he would be better suited to 7 at SR level (understandable why he doesn't play there in NPC given the number of opensides Northland has)
The Blues should have given him a run ahead of Kiri Kiri -
Not surprising. With Black returning and Perofeta developing (and Plummer in the wings) I think it makes sense for all parties here.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12045899
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@kiwimurph wonder if his dad being coach would have any bearing on his decision?
I guess right now, if you can stay in NZ and play Super rugby, anywhere other than the Blues is a good place.
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@kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:
Not surprising. With Black returning and Perofeta developing (and Plummer in the wings) I think it makes sense for all parties here.
There's a shortage of tens with Sopoaga leaving and Cruden having left recently.
There will be ~15 flyhalfs contracted next year and the quality at the lower end of that list is not great. In other years I doubt Gatland would get a contract
From a Blues point of view Black, Plummer & Perofeta would be a reasonable outcome. Aged 23, 22 and 20 at the start of next season and all recently come through the NZ u20's program. One of them should kick on.. all they need is good coaching..
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SANZAAR: Statement: Super Rugby's Future
SANZAAR, as publicly announced last year, is in the middle of a detailed strategic review to determine the future of Super Rugby and The Rugby Championship. This major internal review is being driven by the SANZAAR Executive Committee and the Member Unions: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina. SANZAAR CEO Andy Marinos said today, “SANZAAR is currently engaged in a detailed strategic planning process that has the ultimate and very important aim of producing a road map for the competitions’ future formats up to and including 2030, and in the shorter term the delivery to market of competitions for the next iteration of SANZAAR’s broadcasting rights.” “As part of this process the member unions have fully committed to the strategy and their future participation. Any talk of a change to the stakeholder relationship and partners withdrawing, creation of new teams in new markets and Trans- Ta$man competitions is unsubstantiated speculation and simply wrong.” “This 12-year strategy is designed to address the challenges facing our game and to clearly articulate SANZAAR’s vision and purpose in terms of a sustainable future. The desired outcome is the delivery of competitive, innovative, engaging and financially sustainable competitions to ensure the continued success of the Member Unions and the Super Rugby clubs/franchises.” “Everything has been on the table – status quo, expansion, contraction, competition formats, etc - as part of our initial blue-sky thinking. We basically started with a blank piece of paper and now we are doing the detailed analysis on what is viable, sustainable and best for our competitions.” “There is an incredible amount of detailed work taking place in this review and we have specialist groups working across all aspects of the review. Therefore it is very disappointing that various aspects of the initial work in terms of potential tournament formats been taken out of context and aired in public.” "Potential expansion into new markets for example should not be confused with only an increase in teams. We are already in the process of taking the established product to new markets. Matches being played in Singapore, Hong Kong, Fiji and Samoa are examples of this.” “We are especially mindful at present that we have just come out of a process that has seen a contraction of Super Rugby. The introduction of new teams or any form of expansion would need to meet a defined set of criteria that have been established,” added Marinos.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
“There is an incredible amount of detailed work taking place in this review and we have specialist groups working across all aspects of the review. Therefore it is very disappointing that various aspects of the initial work in terms of potential tournament formats been taken out of context and aired in public.”
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
The incredible amount of detailed work was done by the geniuses who brought you the Super 18, and the conference system.