Chiefs all time XV

[Bovidae]

@taniwharugby said in Chiefs all time XV:

@chester-draws rarely saw the best of Bunce in super rugby

And that's being kind.

My team would be:

1 Michael Collins
2 Hika Elliot
3 Ben Tameifuna
4 Brodie Retallick
5 Ian Jones
6 Liam Messam
7 Sam Cane
8 Deon Muir
9 Byron Kelleher
10 Aaron Cruden
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu
12 Walter Little
13 Richard Kahui
14 Roger Randle
15 Mils Muliaina

16 Tom Willis
17 Deacon Manu
18 Nathan White
19 Jonno Gibbes
20 Sione Lauaki
21 TKB
22 DMac
23 Glen Osborne

Loe only played at the Chiefs for one year and was at the backend of his career.

I have excluded two of my favourite players - Holah and Hopa.

[Virgil]

Are these Alltime XV teams about picking the best performing players who contributed to successful eras for that team or just picking the best All Blacks of all time who happened to play for that team one time or another?

[Bovidae]

I've selected my team based on who were the best performers over time, not necessarily ABs or players in title winning teams.

[gt12]

@virgil

I picked the team I wanted to see play.

I might have another go at a team of best performers, or I may decide another metric for making it

[mariner4life]

I would find it very very hard to leave out heart and soul players like Gibbes and Holah. They were the Chiefs for a while.

Chiefs are stacked on the wings, and battling in other spots.

Mils
Randle
Kahui
Little
Reihana
Beaver
Leanard
Messam
Holah
Gibbes
Retallic
Robinson
White
Willis
Collins

Lauaki first name for the bench, especially if we are playing the Crusaders.

[Bovidae]

@mariner4life said in Chiefs all time XV:

I would find it very very hard to leave out heart and soul players like Gibbes and Holah. They were the Chiefs for a while.

As did I. But I put Muir in that same category because he was often the best Chiefs player in an underperforming forward pack.

[gt12]

Fuck this 'best representatives thing'.

I've come up with my own criteria, again.

I can't quite get to 15, so I've got three obvious ring-ins in this team (R).

I reckon that @Bovidae can probably guess how I picked this team, and might be able to help by replacing some of the ring-ins.

1. Ben May
2. Keven Mealamu (R)
3. Nathan White
4. Jono Gibbes (C)
5. Steve Gordon
6. Sione Lauaki
7. Steven Bates
8. Deon Muir
9. Rhys Duggan
10. Ian Foster
11. Sitiveni Sivivatu
12. SBW (R)
13. Robbie Fruean
14. Hosea Gear (R)
15. Bruce Reihana

[Nepia]

@gt12 You'll have to let us know the criteria that gets Robbie Fruean, Ben May and Big Head Bates in the team.

[ploughboy]

looks like a te awamutu team

[gt12]

@ploughboy said in Chiefs all time XV:

looks like a te awamutu team

@Nepia

What he said.

TA College first, then Te Awamutu Sports, then ring-ins.

[mikedogz]

My Alternative Chiefs team with heavy Bias

1 Pauliasi Manu
2 Hika Elliot
3 Nepo Laulala
4 Api Naevo
5 Kristian Ormsby
6 Koula Tukino
7 Glen Marsh
8 Errol Brain
9 Danny Lee
10 Beaver
11Sitiveni Sivivatu
12 Bundee Aki
13 SBW
14 Lelia Masaga
15 TNW

16 Mahonri Schwalger
17 Jarrod Firth
18 Lee Lidgard
19 Mark Cooksley
20 Fritz Lee
21 Augy Pulu
22 Niva Ta'auso
23 Loki Crichton

[mikedogz]

Changed slightly if I used other criteria as well

1 Pauliasi Manu
2 Guy Coleman
3 Nepo Laulala
4 Toby Lynn
5 Mark Burman
6 Koula Tukino
7 Wayne McEntee
8 Errol Brain
9 David Bason
10 Beaver
11 Roger Randle
12 Bundee Aki
13 Richard Kahui
14 Declan O'Donnell
15 Mils Muliaina

[Nepia]

My Alternative Chiefs team with heavy Bias

1. Sona Taumolo
2. Hika Elliott
3. Ben Tamifuna
4. Dom Bird
5. BBBR
6. Michael Allardice
7. Colin Bourke
8. Richard Turner
9. Daniel Lee
10. Tian Falcon
11. Robbie Fruean
12. Matt Cooper
13. Andrew Horrell
14. Roger Randle
15. Sam McNicol

Bit too much of an ask to get all reserves although can make a decent stab at it: Ben May, Mo Schwalger, Ross Filipo, Brad Weber, Callum Bruce, Dan Waenga, Maritino Nemani

[dogmeat]

If you're allowed ring ins...

Afeaki
McFarland
Woodcock (R)
Flavell (R)
Jones
Larsen
Barry
Turner
Robinson
Burton
Little
Bunce
Rush
Woods
Osborne

No prizes for guessing my criteria

[Nepia]

@dogmeat You must be able to make a whole team without ring ins? NH was part of the Chiefs!

[dogmeat]

@nepia I know that but without trawling through every Chiefs squad to see if they drafted any players we didn't supply props or locks (Kamo apart) in 96-98. This was the hey day of the Brown Bros. Tight forwards were only chosen for Harbour if they were de facto blindsides

[MN5]

@mikedogz said in Chiefs all time XV:

Changed slightly if I used other criteria as well

1 Pauliasi Manu
2 Guy Coleman
3 Nepo Laulala
4 Toby Lynn
5 Mark Burman
6 Koula Tukino
7 Wayne McEntee
8 Errol Brain
9 David Bason
10 Beaver
11 Roger Randle
12 Bundee Aki
13 Richard Kahui
14 Declan O'Donnell
15 Mils Muliaina

Whatever happened to that joker? He looked the part but then literally vanished off the face of the earth ( even in the early 2000s if was usually pretty easy to find out if someone had gone overseas but not him, he was like a ghost )

Awesome player when in form.

[Bovidae]

@gt12

Hard to know who else has played for TA Sports in the past as most of the players seem to get farmed out to a Hamilton club or Hautapu nowadays if they need games.

[Bovidae]

@mikedogz

The last Te Rapa club game I watched was when I went to watch Mils returning from a shoulder injury. Kahui was also playing that day.

[gt12]

@bovidae

Yeah, it's a sign of how things have changed. Once upon a time, we had a really strong club (and school), where plenty would come (they used to get shared around more too, I assume).

I was sure that we had a hooker in the chiefs squad at some point, and there must be another winger. I started looking but it's much harder to find old squads than it should be.