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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
I'll just put this here...
Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):
- Where from?
- any idea how they calculate?
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@booboo said in Super Rugby News:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
I'll just put this here...
Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):
- Where from?
- any idea how they calculate?
1 From USA.
2 This is what they say on their website:Designed by a MIT economist, Rugby Vision (RV) is a suite of statistical models that predicts outcomes for major rugby competitions. For each game, RV calculates the expected score margin and the probability of each team winning. RV also calculates the probability of each team obtaining various milestones in a tournament. For more on RV’s methods, see our Rugby World Cup overview.On that RWC page they say this:
Like most future events, it is impossible to know for certain who will win the 2015 Rugby World Cup, but we can estimate probabilities of various outcomes occurring. We do this by building a rating system for international rugby matches and using these ratings to estimate expected score margins (like who will win and by how much.) We can then characterize uncertainty around these predictions. In the following analysis, I use the rugbyvision.com algorithm to rate teams. This scheme is an Elo-type system specifically designed to represent international rugby games. The Elo system, named after Arpad Elo, was originally invented to rank chess players and is now used in various other games and sports. In the Elo system, ratings points are based on past performances and differences in ratings points reflect relative strength. Our rugbyvision.com ratings employ a different system to that used for the official world rugby (formerly International Rugby Board) ratings, so our rankings differ from the official ones.I've seen more of these kind of predictions v outcomes ratings based on algorithms, and they always seem to have strange rankings. In this one, only one of the winners of the four major competitions in 2017 (Aviva Premiership, Super Rugby, Pro12 and Top 14) is the highest ranked team of their competition.
Edited to add that it is also odd that they use the predictions & results of the unfinished European competitions (12 games Premiership, 10-12 games Pro 12 & 14 games Top 14), instead of the data of finished 2016-2017 competitions.
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I'm cool with the list, because a team that doesn't even exist is ahead of the Waratahs and the Reds.
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This is the Jaguares squad for the 2018 SR season. Apart from a new Head Coach, former Wallabies assistant coach Mario Ledesma, it looks like they also have quite a few new players.
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Five of last year's 8 props don't return this year. I know two of them are now playing in France (Ramiro Herrera/Stade Francais and Facundo Gigena/Leicester Tigers) and one in England (Lucas Noguera Paz/ Bath).
Also one of the three hookers from the 2017 isn't coming back. So a lot of new faces in their frontrow. Creevy still there though. Two of their six 2017 locks are no longer in the squad, neither are two loosies. Also notable absences from the squad are wingers Santiago Cordero and Manuel Montero (the latter having terminated his contract with the Argentinian union to return to his club Pucarà in the Argentine domestic competition Top12).The names with an asterisk are Argentina XV players who have been invited to train with the squad during the first week of preseason.
Cubelli has returned to Argentina from the Brumbies. Among the new players are former Pumas 7s players Sebastián Cancelliere (replacing Montero) and Santiago Álvarez Fourcade.
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@booboo said in Super Rugby News:
@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
I'll just put this here...
Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):
- Where from?
- any idea how they calculate?
and what are the comedy blues doing in the top 58???
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From the All Blacks website.
2018 pre-season schedule
Chiefs v Blues, 4pm, Friday 2 February, Te Kuiti
Crusaders v Hurricanes, 5.30pm, Friday 2 February, Greymouth
Highlanders v Waratahs, 6pm, Friday 2 February, Queenstown
Brisbane Global Rugby Tens (all teams), 9-10 February, Brisbane
Brumbies v Chiefs, Wednesday 14 February (time TBC), Sunshine Coast
Highlanders v Crusaders, 6pm, Thursday 15 February, Waimumu
Hurricanes v Blues, time TBC, Thursday 15 February, Auckland -
Sky Television has confirmed sports journalist, broadcaster and commentator Rikki Swannell will join its play-by-play team for the 2018 Super Rugby season.
Swannell's first match is scheduled to be the Crusaders and Waratahs on May 12.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11975472
I wonder if this would've happened if Auckland weren't a shambles?
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@kiwimurph Don't know if Sauni would end up better than their three though? Apasi is pretty highly rated isn't he?
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I guess any schoolboy rep is a 'potential AB'....
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@tim said in Super Rugby News:
@kiwimurph Don't know if Sauni would end up better than their three though? Apasi is pretty highly rated isn't he?
From what i've seen Apisai is more journeyman than star. He is still young though and now has a clearer path to gametime than at the Canes so i'll give him that.
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Meh, not really concerned with losing him.
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No big loss here. Apasai is a lot better player, I doubt JP wld have been an NPC player.
This just happens to be a case out of blue and no way he Cld see himself cracking a super squad inNZ in the foreseeable future -
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Not quite super rugby, but I couldn’t be bothered starting a new thread.
George Smith in the gun. A friend of a friend (rugby player) was arrested a few years ago and (seriously) it led to the resignation of the coach. Pretty serious about their discipline over here so I’m watching this one with interest...
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