Sports Pay Gender gap...
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@stargazer seems our media have slow news days most days with some of the tripe they deem newsworthy!
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@taniwharugby I agree, but I must admit they're very good at comparing apples and oranges.
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@stargazer said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
@taniwharugby I agree, but I must admit they're very good at comparing apples and oranges.
Precisely.
However, comparing apples with apples; my niece is a bit awesome on a dirtbike and at the nationals, riding the same bikes on the same tracks as fast or faster than men having paid the same entrance fee, will receive a quarter of the prize money.
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Idiotic feminists searching for things to be outraged about, instead of focussing on real issues. The "feminist" movement is beyond a parody these days.
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@no-quarter said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
Idiotic feminists searching for things to be outraged about, instead of focussing on real issues. The "feminist" movement is beyond a parody these days.
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The captain of the best national team in world soccer earns $10.7M NZD per year. I'm outraged that Kieran Read earns only 12% of this. The highest paid soccer player earned 75 times what Read did. That's an outrage and i demand more money comes in to rugby to pay Read the exact same amount.
Perhaps they should compare Netball to NBL contracts? Although i doubt that will raise quite the same click-worthy headlines.
Well done Stuff, you are a pretty decent tabloid these days.
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@mariner4life said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
The captain of the best national team in world soccer earns $10.7M NZD per year. I'm outraged that Kieran Read earns only 12% of this. The highest paid soccer player earned 75 times what Read did. That's an outrage and i demand more money comes in to rugby to pay Read the exact same amount.
Perhaps they should compare Netball to NBL contracts? Although i doubt that will raise quite the same click-worthy headlines.
Well done Stuff, you are a pretty decent tabloid these days.
These days? I think they've been like this for a good decade now.
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While we are on the topic of Stuff.
Wouldn't snubbed mean not making the top 20?
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@hooroo said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
While we are on the topic of Stuff.
Wouldn't snubbed mean not making the top 20?
Stephen Jones has endorsed this list. It's ok, move along everyone.
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@taniwharugby saw that "article" earlier.
Had a couple of thoughts:
- How many times can you squeeze in a contrast and pretend it's a comparison?
- The new women's professional leagues in Aus are most likely funded by the revenue generated by the men's side of the sport. Netball doesn't have a men's league to fund them.
Sport is a business. Want more money? Sell more product.
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@antipodean Yeah, I'm not suggesting there is no problem. No doubt that happens in several sports and that should change.
If you remove all the comparisons to other sports blah blah in the article posted above, it actually could have been a good, relevant story. Of course, @taniwharugby picked the most controversial bit of the article, responding as these click-bait editors intended. However, if you read the full article, then it's obvious the essence of the story is not about the few leading Silver Ferns earning $130,000 a year, nor about the frontline ANZ Premiership players who earn between $60-80,000, and even less about how those wages compare to All Blacks salaries.
It's really about the players on low wages who don't earn enough to live and need part-time jobs to pay the bills, but can't hold down those part-time jobs due to the current competition format that requires them to play matches on Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays. This forces several players, including new talent, to chose between playing netball and work careers, with netball regularly losing players because - obviously - these players need to think about their future and if their jobs outside sport pay better, then that's what they're going for. That's clearly not good for netball in NZ, including the Silver Ferns.
The main question for Netball NZ is how to generate more money (sponsors) so they can pay those players adequate wages, to keep them in the sport.
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@no-quarter said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
Idiotic feminists searching for things to be outraged about, instead of focussing on real issues. The "feminist" movement is beyond a parody these days.
Not sure whether your post is serious or not, but I don't think that's the case at all. It's just the way the stuff article is written (see my previous post).
(I also think that many anti-feminists have the wrong comprehension of feminism, which is essentially about fair (equitable) treatment of women. I'm all for feminism in that sense. But that's another discussion that I won't engage in here.)
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@stargazer said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
@no-quarter said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
Idiotic feminists searching for things to be outraged about, instead of focussing on real issues. The "feminist" movement is beyond a parody these days.
Not sure whether your post is serious or not, but I don't think that's the case at all. It's just the way the stuff article is written (see my previous post).
(I also think that many anti-feminists have the wrong comprehension of feminism, which is essentially about fair (equitable) treatment of women. I'm all for feminism in that sense. But that's another discussion that I won't engage in here.)
I think what @No-Quarter is referring to is the moronic ones who insist on making issues where there are none. The kind of dumb bitches who would throw a gesture like opening a door like a gentleman back in a blokes face.
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@stargazer I think you do @taniwharugby a misservice.
The article seemed to me to be a predominantly click bait vehicle. It should have been about what you wanted it to be ... but it wasn't.
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@stargazer righto, I carefully picked out the headline, so controversial of me!...ferald and stuff have been beating the pay thing for a while, this week it is the silverferns compared to ABs not the Black Ferns.
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@booboo said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
@stargazer I think you do @taniwharugby a misservice.
The article seemed to me to be a predominantly click bait vehicle. It should have been about what you wanted it to be ... but it wasn't.
@taniwharugby said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
@stargazer righto, I picked out the headline, so controversial of me!...ferald and stuff have been beating the pay thing for a while, this week it is the silverferns compared to ABs not the Black Ferns.
I must have worded that sentence wrong, because you both understand it diffrently from what I intended. Anyhow, we agree that the story is buried in click-bait. Compare that with a much better article from Liam Napier about the Black Ferns. Particularly the part about Selica Winiata is interesting and illustrates why change in women's rugby is needed.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11967416
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@stargazer said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
@no-quarter said in Sports Pay Gender gap...:
Idiotic feminists searching for things to be outraged about, instead of focussing on real issues. The "feminist" movement is beyond a parody these days.
Not sure whether your post is serious or not, but I don't think that's the case at all. It's just the way the stuff article is written (see my previous post).
(I also think that many anti-feminists have the wrong comprehension of feminism, which is essentially about fair (equitable) treatment of women. I'm all for feminism in that sense. But that's another discussion that I won't engage in here.)
Sorry to say @Stargazer I'm afraid feminism has progressed far beyond those respectable ideals, at this point it should probably be classified as a mental illness. I will admit there is some good feminists trying to claim it back but they are generally marked as pariahs and bullied out of any organisation.
