Black Caps vs Windies Series
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@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
If you look at the Aus team they have the balance right. 6 frontline batsmen, a keeper and 4 frontline bowlers.
NZ has 5 frontline batsmen, a keeper, 3 frontline bowlers and 2 guys not really good enough at either. Can work in the shorter forms but doesn't for tests. It means guys like CdG bowl first change and guys like Santner are at the crease when we are only four down.
That works for Aus because those 4 frontline bowlers are really fucking good, so don't have to have the opposition in for ages and ages. Aus don't really have anyone at the moment that can give them a spell.
But i pretty much agree with you that we should be looking at that type of lineup. We have always loved bits and pieces players though.
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I guess the question for us is, if you are going to pick six batsmen then who are they? It's not clear to me that Neesham, Anderson and De Grandhomme are that much worse than Neil Broom or Dean Brownlie. Aussies have sort of been forced into their current arrangement because Mitchell Marsh was so terrible.
I don't Ben Stokes or Moeen Ali are good enough to bat in the top six if they didn't bowl. I also don't think their bowling would be good enough if they didn't bat. They are probably just close enough in both aspects that it makes sense for England to pick both of them.
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@hydro11 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
I guess the question for us is, if you are going to pick six batsmen then who are they? It's not clear to me that Neesham, Anderson and De Grandhomme are that much worse than Neil Broom or Dean Brownlie.
Tom Bruce (42.02), Bharat Popli (39.17), and Will Young (38.64) have been names thrown out there. They all have a better first class average than Nicholls (36.02, - test ave of 31.94), who is our current #5.
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@mimic said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
@hydro11 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
I guess the question for us is, if you are going to pick six batsmen then who are they? It's not clear to me that Neesham, Anderson and De Grandhomme are that much worse than Neil Broom or Dean Brownlie.
Tom Bruce (42.02), Bharat Popli (39.17), and Will Young (38.64) have been names thrown out there. They all have a better first class average than Nicholls (36.02, - test ave of 31.94), who is our current #5.
Those stats would get them into the English team
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I have only seen Bruce bat once so a very small sample size, but I can confidently say, unfortunately, that he didn't appear to have the footwork to be a decent test batsman. He reminded me of Spearman.
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Plumb live, amazed the umpire said not out. Grrrrrrrrr
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@no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:
Plumb live, amazed the umpire said not out. Grrrrrrrrr
To be fair.. there were two sounds
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Everyone that was throwing shade at CdG can give themselves a pat on the back. We all played a part in that innings.