2018 New Zealand U20s

Wurzel

@stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments: Caleb Clarke (Auckland), Will Jordan ( Ta$man), Vilimoni Koroi (Otago).

Reading between the lines, Koroi is in the NZ 7s team (no surprises) and Will Jordan is in the Crusaders (seems likely) and therefore Caleb Clarke is in the Blues or NZ 7s?

KiwiMurph

@wurzel Caleb Clarke was announced as a Blues signing a couple of months back - along with Dalton Papalii

Tim

@mikedogz

Salyn Tonu'u is Junior Tonu'u's son. He plays halfback, and apparently was the star of the NH U19 team this year (finished 3rd).

Rapido

@mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Who are sons of former Pro players?

Hoskins Sotutu
Salyn Tonu'u?
Rupena Parkinson?

I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

(not pro then though .......)

98blueandgold

Good squad, some depth there.
as for 10s like McCluthie, Reihana (Only y12), Waikato first five, we just happen to have talent there, Last two years schools first 5s who have played mitre10 Wiseguy, Plummer and my pick Matoe.
Like the athletes in the forwards, but agin it will be the set-piece that dictates the success of the group.

As is the way a number of this squad will not make it to the next stage and those not pick will find there way in for march, especially this years schools players. You always find that the Feb/March camps is more accurate as they pick players who have had super squad exposure and super development games. I think they selectors want to see them play up a level before choosing current school players.

Number 10

@rapido said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

@mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Who are sons of former Pro players?

Hoskins Sotutu
Salyn Tonu'u?
Rupena Parkinson?

I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

(not pro then though .......)

I think you're thinking of Steve van der Leeden who was number eight for BOP 1989-1990.
His father Ernest was fullback for BOP 1968.

cgrant

I expected Alaimalo, Dyer, Ah Kuoi, Funaki, Tupaea and Etene Nanai to make the squad. They had been very impressive for the NZ Schoolboys in September. Still too young ?

Stargazer

@cgrant Yeah, that's what I thought when I said that I expected more players from the NZ Schools team. I think many of them will probably play U19s in 2018, and only a few will make the U20 squad.

Number 10

@stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

The ones in bold all played Mitre 10 Cup this year except for Ngani Punivai who played in Canterbury's Ranfurly Shield defence v Wanganui.

Bovidae

@98blueandgold

I've heard good things about Matoe. He spent most of the season playing club rugby for Hautapu in the Waikato.

cgrant

@number-10 said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

@stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Auckland (11): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui, Wiseguy Faiane, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a, [Caleb Clarke]
Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Ajay Mua, Ricky Van Der Heyden, Kaleb Trask
Counties (1): Suetena Asomua
Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai, [ Raymond Nu'u]
Hawke's Bay (5): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Devan Flanders, Danny Toala, [Will Tremain]
Manawatu (2): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose
North Harbour (1): Salyn Tonu'u
Northland (1): Scott Gregory,
Otago (3): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall, [Vilimoni Koroi]
Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
Taranaki (4) Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Va'ai, Ciarahn Matoe
Ta$man (7): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart, [Will Jordan]
Waikato (6) Sosaia Fale, Josh Kaho, Laghlan McWhannell, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Sheldon Tovio
Wellington (4): Xavier Numia, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

The ones in bold all played Mitre 10 Cup this year except for Ngani Punivai who played in Canterbury's Ranfurly Shield defence v Wanganui.

I think Christie has played a few minutes against Ta$man during the Mitre 10 Cup final.

Number 10

@cgrant

he did too - came on for the last five minutes.

Rapido

@number-10 said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

@rapido said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

@mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Who are sons of former Pro players?

Hoskins Sotutu
Salyn Tonu'u?
Rupena Parkinson?

I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

(not pro then though .......)

I think you're thinking of Steve van der Leeden who was number eight for BOP 1989-1990.
His father Ernest was fullback for BOP 1968.

That's the one.

Tim

Ben Wylie / Oct 31, 2017

New Zealand U20: 2018 development squad

Craig Philpott has named his first wider development squad for the 2018 New Zealand U20 side – who will be looking to capture their third U20 title in four years next summer – ahead of …

Rapido

@mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

Who are sons of former Pro players?

Hoskins Sotutu
Salyn Tonu'u?
Rupena Parkinson?

Is Will Tremain son of 90s HB player (Simon?) who was the son of Kel?

Number 10

Is grandson of Kel, not sure which of Kel's sons is the father.

Stargazer

http://www.allblacks.com/News/31775/craig-philpott-appointed-to-expanded-under-20-coaching-role

Stargazer

Players selected for the first NZ U20 trial camp in Palmerston-North of the year (starting 8 March 2018)

The camp begins on Thursday with a tight five clinic led by All Blacks scrum guru Mike Cron, before all players assemble for a five-day programme. Two trial teams will be selected to play Hurricanes Development and a Wellington XV on Saturday 10 March.

Philpott said this camp is an important component in building the squad.

“We had these players in camp in December for some testing and to set expectations and goals. This week we get to see how they have progressed over the summer months and really start building towards June."

The squad features several players who had been involved in the 2017 wider squad, while six players have been recognised for their performances in the New Zealand Schools’ campaign late last year.

Selected players:

Auckland (6): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a
Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Jeriah Mua, Stan van den Hoven, Kaleb Trask
Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Raymond Nu'u, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai
Counties Manukau (1): Suetena Asomua
Hawkes Bay (1): Devan Flanders
Manawatu (4): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose, Matene Ruawai, Ueta Tufuga
Northland (1): Scott Gregory
Otago (2): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall
Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
Taranaki (4): Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Vaa'i, Ciarahn Matoe
Ta$man (6): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart
Waikato (4): Josh Kaho, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Quinn Tupaea
Wellington (5): Xavier Numia, Taine Plumtree, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments

Caleb Clarke (Blues)
Will Jordan (Crusaders)
Vilimoni Koroi (All Blacks Sevens)

Not considered due to injury

Hawke's Bay (3): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Will Tremain
Waikato (1): Laghlan McWhannell
Bay of Plenty (1): Ajay Mua
Auckland (3): Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui
Waikato (1): Sheldon Tovio

A further camp for the New Zealand Under 20 squad will be held in April, before taking part in the Oceania Tournament on the Gold Coast in April and May. A squad of 28 will be selected to go to the Under 20 World Championship in France from 25 May – 18 June 2017.

http://www.allblacks.com/News/32115/under-20-hopefuls-in-final-push-for-world-cup-squad-selection

Bovidae

These squads are always interesting to see where some schoolboy stars end up. A few have moved to other provinces.

I wonder how old Charles Alaimalo is? He might still be a year away from being considered for the U20s.

Stargazer

@bovidae said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

These squads are always interesting to see where some schoolboy stars end up. A few have moved to other provinces.

I wonder how old Charles Alaimalo is? He might still be a year away from being considered for the U20s.

Is there a minimum age? There are at least 3 Hawke's Bay players, who were in NZ schools, but missing in the list to my surprise.

The Silver Fern

2018 New Zealand U20s

New Zealand U20: 2018 development squad