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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
It's almost amusing reading the comments on Labour-supporter Facebook posts, these people are acting like it's the second coming of Jesus. One even wrote about 'making NZ great again'.
I hope Ardern realises that some of these people are more than bit blinded about what they think she is going to achieve with a wave of her sparkle wand. And that they could turn more than a bit feral when cold reality sets in (ie budget and taxes and exactly how much she conceded to Peters...)
nah, they won't turn on her - they have nowhere to turn - except the greens, and that doesn't really matter.
we don't actually know what winston has got yet do we? i thought he'd go national due to hating the greens and the nats having more votes - but he always had more common ground with labour policy-wise i reckon.
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@antipodean said in NZ Politics:
New Zealand is about to learn a valuable lesson in economics. Pity, because it's lead the world in a number of areas for quite some time.
you are including the clark/cullen labour government in that i assume?
polly's always take way too much credit for the economy. the aussies were falling over themselves congratulating each other when mining was going gangbusters, which genuinely had fuck all to do with them. so too our dairy. -
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@hooroo said in NZ Politics:
Comedy. Going to love the over reaction that is about to come and yet fuck all will truly change in most people’s lives. Give or take a few dollars here and there
Fucken word to this post Hooroo. One would be mistaken for thinking we'd been living under a military dictatorship for the last 9 years. Christ some left wing fairies need to seriously have some perspective in life.
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Interesting in Peters' speech how he is confidently predicting an economic shock within three years - whether this is a global shock, or just a NZ shock after a tidal wave of left wing social spending and economic intervention, we'll soon find out - and NZers need a strong hand on the rudder, and this was a major factor in choosing...Labour. Grant Robertson is an economic retard.
A big rant against the "neo-liberal experiment" too. He wants to take us back to the Muldoon years.
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so right now, the Greens are deciding if they accept Whinny's terms? hahahaha
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
so right now, the Greens are deciding if they accept Whinny's terms? hahahaha
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is amusing how all the headlines say Winston has picked Labour, which is wrong, he picked Labour and Greens.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@canefan maybe something he and Shaw could do together, to bond!
Shaw is claiming today is a momentous day for the Greens. Whaaattt? Frozen out of government by a hated rival? Spurned by the party with which you had a special arrangement up to 6 weeks of the election?
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This is what I like about NZ politics:
Asked if he felt robbed given National had secured the highest vote, English said it was MMP and the result was "a legitimate and fair result of the election campaign. We certainly accept it and I'm sure New Zealanders will".
However, he said it was likely many of National's supporters would have believed National should form the government.
"It's an unusual result for MMP - there's probably not been a party anywhere in the world that got 44 per cent of the vote and didn't win the election. But we all know the rules, we campaign according to those results."With all the talk about voter fraud and stealing elections over here in the States, it is a refreshing change. Politicians need to set a better example of showing that accepting losses are also part of a democracy.
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I think English gave a very statesman like speech - enriched by genuine emotion when he talked about sharing the election campaign with his family.
Adern also spoke very well, although I am still waiting for to actually say something.
Winnie and Shaw - not so much.
It all hinges on the economy. Winnie got his excuses in early but if he is right and there is an economic shock - then a one term govt is almost a given.
If Adern/Robertson lead an incremental govt like Clark/Cullen then as Hooroo says so what?
The govt has generated a heap of expectations and there are going to be a lot of people disappointed in the messiah because while there was clearly no 11 Billion hole also clearly there isn't the money for all the promises.
I wish them well. The next 12 mths will be very interesting. If at the end of that period it looks like they are delivering on a substantial number of promises then National will fracture and English will be rolled and Nats will lose in 2020. If the govt are looking weak the Nats will unify around English and he will win next time.
In the govt's favour is Winnie's legacy. I reckon he will reign in his arrogance and disruptiveness because he doesn't want to be seen as contributing to the defeat of 4 governments.
the Greens hahahahahahahahahaha
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Sweet, Labour got in and now they are giving me a day off on Monday, that's how you win votes!!
I read last night that the new Govt. will face the largest opposition in history of NZ Govt.
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@taniwharugby Mainly because our parliament is bigger than it was in FPP days
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
I read last night that the new Govt. will face the largest opposition in history of NZ Govt.
and a health, opposition, still connected into ministries and media. They should do a better job than Labour at holding the government to account.
Criticism is easy. Doing things is where you start to tread on toes, leaks happen, etc... and there is no bottomless pit of money either.
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