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  • DuluthD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #2252

    Clarke and Papali'i are pretty obvious signings. I don't see any problem with young guys working their way through the age group teams and earning a contract.

    I don't have sympathy for a 23-25 year old who can't squeeze his way into the top ~200 players in the country. That means not being rated by 5 different sets of selectors. It's not a charity.

    The problem is the lack of open spots 1 week into the NPC season. Some franchises have already claimed their roster is almost sorted.. thats a real issue

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  • Number 10N Offline
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    #2253

    @Duluth said in Super Rugby News:

    Clarke and Papali'i are pretty obvious signings. I don't see any problem with young guys working their way through the age group teams and earning a contract.

    I don't have sympathy for a 23-25 year old who can't squeeze his way into the top ~200 players in the country. That means not being rated by 5 different sets of selectors. It's not a charity.

    The problem is the lack of open spots 1 week into the NPC season. Some franchises have already claimed their roster is almost sorted.. thats a real issue**

    Agree with this entirely.

    The Jock Hobbs National Under 19 tournament is putting 400 players into view every year. Super teams are getting an eyeful of this emerging talent every year and taking punts on players. This is leading to a Mitre 10 Cup performer being ignored.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #2254

    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby News:

    some sort of transfer window?

    That might help.. but the downside is it would make players more vulnerable to overseas offers waiting for the window

    I think it might sort it self out over time. The lack of spots seems a lot worse this year.
    When franchises miss out on high quality SR players because they didn't leave spots open for NPC breakouts, behaviour will change

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    Players can still emerge through the NPC though. How many had heard of Mitchell Brown before he was selected to make his debut for the Chiefs against Wales last year? He wasn't named in the original squad but was part of the WTG.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth I wasn't meaning anyone in particular and tbf there probably aren't big numbers of truly unlucky players but are still a few who do get shut out because so few spots exist due to signing these young guys who might not play in thier first year of a 3 year contract.

    Also don't think there is an easy fix...is just guys getting contracted out of school is becoming more normal I guess.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @JayCee said in Super Rugby News:

    radio sport are reporting that Bryn Hall has re-signed with the Crusaders

    Confirmed by the Crusaders. Hall has re-signed for one season.

    http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1142-bryn-hall-re-signs-with-bnz-crusaders

    So by my count:

    Not yet signed from last year's squad:
    Jed Brown
    Quentin Strange
    Andrew Makalio
    Heiden Bedwell Curtis
    Mitchell Dunshea
    Tim Bateman
    Manasa Makaele
    Marty McKenzie
    Sione Fifita
    Sean Wainui

    New signings:
    Tom Sanders

    So, still nine vacant slots assuming Richard Knowler is on the ball regarding unsigned players from last year.

    Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

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    #2258

    Does anyone know if Delany has signed with any one?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @JayCee He's not on my list. While that is no 100% guarantee he hasn't signed with anyone, I'm reasonably confident he's still a free man.

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    @Chris-B.

    Question for Crusaders fans. Do you cut Marty McKenzie and sign a young first five like Cameron or McKay - or stick with him as your third choice for another season given that if you need to actually use someone he'll probably be the best in the short term.

    I would cut Marty McKenzie. He's a palagi Volavola. Our '3rd first five' position would be much better filled by someone like Josh McKay.

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  • WurzelW Offline
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    #2261

    Worth remembering Tim Bateman could fill that role of experienced, serviceable first five if we ever got in a hole where Mo'unga and Hunt fall over in the same week we play a NZ team where it's too important to start a McKay or Cameron.

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    #2262

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96264455/andrew-flexman-stepping-down-as-chief-executive-of-chiefs-super-rugby-club

    Starting a fashion company - specialising in shirts.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #2263

    Savea not going anywhere...

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96294277/julian-savea-to-stay-with-hurricanes

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    #2264

    WESTERN FORCE APPEAL: ARU WIN CASE TO AXE CLUB

    THE Western Force have lost their case in the NSW Supreme Court to overturn the ARU’s axing of the Super Rugby club.

    Justice David Hammerschlag handed down his decision this morning at the NSW Supreme Court.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/rugby/western-force/western-force-appeal-aru-win-case-to-axe-club/news-story/f7bb046e97e3a86713778befbad58dfc

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    #2265

    Tryel Lomax to play for Highlanders in 2019/2020

    http://thehighlanders.co.nz/news/849-promising-young-prop-returns-to-new-zealand

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #2266

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/96751239/champion-crusaders-sign-speedy-canterbury-rookie-braydon-ennor

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    Ennor, a St Kentigern's old boy, is originally from Auckland but moved to Christchurch last year and is almost two years through a commerce degree at Canterbury University.

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

    Ennor, a St Kentigern's old boy, is originally from Auckland but moved to Christchurch last year and is almost two years through a commerce degree at Canterbury University.

    Smart move πŸ™‚

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to SammyC on last edited by Tim
    #2269

    @SammyC shakes fist πŸ™‚

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth There's some good info at the bottom of that post:

    Contracted Crusaders:
    Codie Taylor (until 2021), Sam Whitelock, Oli Jager, Mitchell Drummond (2020); Kieran Read, Owen Franks, Israel Dagg, Joe Moody, Ben Funnell, Tim Perry, Mitchell Hunt, George Bridge, Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Richie Mo'unga, Tom Sanders, Braydon Ennor (2019); Matt Todd, Ryan Crotty, Seta Tamanivalu, Wyatt Crockett, Jordan Taufua, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Mike Alaalatoa, Jone Macilai, Leon Fukofuka, Pete Samu, Digby Ioane, Bryn Hall (2018).

    No Ere Enari in that list.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #2271

    @Tim Looks like you have to blame his dad!

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