Stadium of Canterbury
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@Duluth knowing better, I still looked at the whining about rugby or publicly funding a stadium in the comments section.
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It reminds me of all the whining in the ODT when the Dunedin stadium was first proposed.
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@Wally nation of whiners...well a small number whine very loud.
People moaned about the Stadium upgrade here, has been and continues to be a great facility for us and has attracted multiple events that would never have come otherwise, people moan about something else now.
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Is 30000, including temp seating, big enough for the major tests? What is the capacity in Wellington?
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@Crazy-Horse There's a Bledisloe this weekend in Dunedin which is 30k. I think it could be tight for a Lions test though.
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@KiwiMurph yeah I fogot about the game being in Dunners this weekend. Google tells me Wellington is 34500 so this proposal will be a bit smaller.
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So just another 1/4 of a billion to find on top of the 1/4 billion already budgeted for..
Some other articles on this proposal:
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doesn't say anything about the $$$ they would have got for AMI stadium payout following the quakes, or has that been gobbled up already?
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Why isn't the Dunedin Stadium design an option that Chch is looking at?
Why are they looking at more expensive options, when Dunedin's groundbreaking design showed you don't need a retractable roof or retractable pitch. Is the dick in someone's pants not retractable? ( the architect? Or trust board?)
This is just retarded. Why do they want retractable? What is the benefit?
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New report favours $496m Christchurch stadium
The original plan for a Christchurch stadium is too expensive, suggests a new report offering four cheaper options.
Christchurch's new stadium could be a 25,000-seat $496m venue with a retractable pitch, according to a new report.
An artist's impression of a new Christchurch stadium.An artist's impression of a new Christchurch stadium. Photo: Christchurch Stadium Trust
The feasibility study by the Christchurch Stadium Trust, established to manage the stadium, details four options for a multi-use arena next to the central city.A blueprint for the new stadium was drawn up in 2012 as part of the earthquake recovery plan, and the original idea was to have a 35,000-seat covered arena with a retractable roof.
But the trust's study found that option would be too expensive, and too big.
Read the full report here (PDF, 5.8MB).
The report instead detailed four other options with the cheapest, at $368m, catering for 25,000 people and having a roof covering up to 80 percent of the venue.
The most expensive would have 30,000 permanent seats, a solid roof and retractable pitch, for a price tag of $584m.
But the preferred option was a $496m stadium, which would have 25,000 permanent seats, a solid roof and retractable pitch.
The city council has already promised a quarter of a billion dollars for the project, which would take more than five years to build.
Construction could start at the beginning of 2019.
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@Rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Why isn't the Dunedin Stadium design an option that Chch is looking at?
Why are they looking at more expensive options, when Dunedin's groundbreaking design showed you don't need a retractable roof or retractable pitch. Is the dick in someone's pants not retractable? ( the architect? Or trust board?)
This is just retarded. Why do they want retractable? What is the benefit?
There are some answers in the articles (one of the options they were looking at was a Dunedin design)
"The retractable pitch provides the character of an arena as opposed to a stadium, which is still the predominant mode of (Dunedin's) Forsyth Barr Stadium."
A retractable tray would allow the turf to be moved outside to grow, exposing a concrete floor that could be used for events, concerts, and non-turf sports.
This option would be $31m more expensive than the Forsyth-Barr-style setup, but would allow lighting and sound systems to hang from the roof, and protect the turf from damage during concerts.
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@taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:
doesn't say anything about the $$$ they would have got for AMI stadium payout following the quakes, or has that been gobbled up already?
That's included in the $253 million the council is putting in.
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@KiwiMurph said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Why isn't the Dunedin Stadium design an option that Chch is looking at?
Why are they looking at more expensive options, when Dunedin's groundbreaking design showed you don't need a retractable roof or retractable pitch. Is the dick in someone's pants not retractable? ( the architect? Or trust board?)
This is just retarded. Why do they want retractable? What is the benefit?
There are some answers in the articles (one of the options they were looking at was a Dunedin design)
"The retractable pitch provides the character of an arena as opposed to a stadium, which is still the predominant mode of (Dunedin's) Forsyth Barr Stadium."
A retractable tray would allow the turf to be moved outside to grow, exposing a concrete floor that could be used for events, concerts, and non-turf sports.
This option would be $31m more expensive than the Forsyth-Barr-style setup, but would allow lighting and sound systems to hang from the roof, and protect the turf from damage during concerts.
It seems a hefty price to able to hang stuff from a roof and occasionally use a concrete floor.
Doesn't consider the extra annual operational costs of maintaining a bit of moving kit that is 130m by 70m.
I can fathom how another mid-size stadium would ever be built again with retractable parts. Dunedin showed this is now obsolete.
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I would have thought that 25K would be perfect for a city of CHCH's size? Small enough to maintain a great atmosphere for Super Rugby or Mitre 10 Cup games, but bigger than the temporary stadium that is currently been used. Brisbane has nearly 2 million people, and its major stadium holds only 52,000.
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@KiwiMurph said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Gold Coast has more population than Chrischurch and both their stadiums (AFL and NRL) are only in the mid 20k range.
Toronto has population 6-7 million and they've abandoned the cavernous retracable roof stadium for football and soccer and gone to an outdoor stadium that is 25K and can be expanded to 40K. It's where Canada's mens national rugby team plays most of their test matches the past several years (though ABs get them in Vancouver this Nov. I suspect another test years hence might be held at BMO in Toronto.). It's ideal. If it's good enough for a city the size of TO where the weather can get ferocious it could than likely do the same trick for Christchurch and it didn't cost them much to construct -- built ten years ago for NZD$69-million, at todays' adjusted cost for inflation $120-million.
For the money ChCh is looking at they could build four of them.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Stadium of Canterbury:
For the money ChCh is looking at they could build four of them.
Or the Cake Tin. Cost $130M in 1999. Capacity of 35,000. Not covered though... but do you have to be? Maybe night rugby makes that play, but an extra $350M for a covered stadium is serious serious cash. And all the OPEX with keeping grass alive with shade... something Dunedin innovated heavily on.
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