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Damn, it's troubling when news comes out to say a person who has just caused agony to so many people and families was known to authorities.
I'm all for civil liberties...but fuck. If someone is behaving in a very odd manner and doing a whole bunch of things that hardcore twinge the terrorist antenna, then greater good and protection of innocents should always take precedence.
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@Mokey said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Damn, it's troubling when news comes out to say a person who has just caused agony to so many people and families was known to authorities.
I'm all for civil liberties...but fuck. If someone is behaving in a very odd manner and doing a whole bunch of things that hardcore twinge the terrorist antenna, then greater good and protection of innocents should always take precedence.
Problem is what he was preaching is straight from the Koran. If the police go around investigating everyone that preaches stuff from the Koran they'll be very busy indeed. I honestly don't think there is much they can do to prevent someone manufacturing an explosive device and running into a crowded area. They've already thwarted a bunch of attacks in the past year, which in itself is an incredible achievement, but all of that stuff is very much the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. It's the ideology in it's most fundamental form (Wahhabism) that is inspiring this sort of depraved shit.
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@No-Quarter The good news is Trump identified Iran as an international agent of
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@antipodean incredibly frustrating. He was saying the right things, but not addressing it to all of the right people, because money.
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@antipodean said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@No-Quarter The good news is Trump identified Iran as an international agent of
mysteryterrorism, while extolling the virtues of the House of Saud in a $100 billion defence industry deal.Was a bit odd considering the Iranians just elected a moderate president(?) over the hardline opponent
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@Duluth said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Mark Steyn's editorial on the wider cultural/policy issues. I'm sure a few will dislike the source, but it is worth a read even if you disagree with his stance on islamic immigration. Most people with these views either don't share them or don't present them as eloquently
It's such an insane situation. Western leaders know that continuing this level of immigration from the Muslim world will result in more social problems and terrorism but don't dare admit it or do something about it. They would rather continue with the new normal rather than be labelled racist or bigoted by the usual halfwits.
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@canefan said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@antipodean said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@No-Quarter The good news is Trump identified Iran as an international agent of
mysteryterrorism, while extolling the virtues of the House of Saud in a $100 billion defence industry deal.Was a bit odd considering the Iranians just elected a moderate president(?) over the hardline opponent
I have no problem with him calling out Iran and the scumbags there that have promoted terrorism like this, but doing that while praising Saudi Arabia is face-palm material. Obama's "we're all best buddies and there's no problems with Islam" approach meant he never had to call anyone out, but also meant things only worsened under his watch. Trump is trying to be more direct which is great to see, but obviously trade deals are more important then stopping terrorist attacks in the greater scheme of things.
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If people want to carry on the Trump/Saudi/Iran conversation please do it on the US Politics thread
Lets keep this one more focused on the Manchester bombing
A lot of people have the US Politics thread on ignore.. So lets keep all that discussion over there
Thanks
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@Duluth said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
If people want to carry on the Trump/Saudi/Iran conversation please do it on the US Politics thread
Lets keep this one more focused on the Manchester bombing
A lot of people have the US Politics thread on ignore.. So lets keep all that discussion over there
Thanks
Can I like this post more than once??
Interesting take on why the concert was a target
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Celebrating my birthday in Manchester as news of the Manchester Arena bomb broke. The anger is monumental.
For what reason will this ever stop?
Theresa May says such attacks "will not break us", but her own life is lived in a bullet-proof bubble, and she evidently does not need to identify any young people today in Manchester morgues. Also, "will not break us" means that the tragedy will not break her, or her policies on immigration. The young people of Manchester are already broken - thanks all the same, Theresa. Sadiq Khan says "London is united with Manchester", but he does not condemn Islamic State - who have claimed responsibility for the bomb. The Queen receives absurd praise for her 'strong words' against the attack, yet she does not cancel today's garden party at Buckingham Palace - for which no criticism is allowed in the Britain of free press. Manchester mayor Andy Burnham says the attack is the work of an "extremist". An extreme what? An extreme rabbit?
In modern Britain everyone seems petrified to officially say what we all say in private. Politicians tell us they are unafraid, but they are never the victims. How easy to be unafraid when one is protected from the line of fire. The people have no such protections.
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@antipodean Ha saw that earlier today. Massive statement from a celeb. Had to give him a like on the old FB as going by many of the comments he is now clearly a nazi racist so will be hemorrhaging them now.
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@Rembrandt said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
@antipodean Ha saw that earlier today. Massive statement from a celeb. Had to give him a like on the old FB as going by many of the comments he is now clearly a nazi racist so will be hemorrhaging them now.
The person that posted a picture of him with a Hitler moustache is an absolutely despicable human being.
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@Mokey said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
Damn, it's troubling when news comes out to say a person who has just caused agony to so many people and families was known to authorities.
I'm all for civil liberties...but fuck. If someone is behaving in a very odd manner and doing a whole bunch of things that hardcore twinge the terrorist antenna, then greater good and protection of innocents should always take precedence.
Known to the police is just something that sounds good in the media. In reality the police are keeping quiet tabs on a very large amount of people.
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For everyone who has ever pointed at Infowars & gone "sure hes a little nuts, but he says some good stuff"
"bombing a bunch of liberal trendies"
Twelve children under the age of 16 were among the 59 casualties. the first confirmed death was an 8 year old girl.
Maybe next time before you post literally anything from Alex Jones, think that over again....
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@gollum said in Manchester Arena Explosion:
For everyone who has ever pointed at Infowars & gone "sure hes a little nuts, but he says some good stuff"
"bombing a bunch of liberal trendies"
Twelve children under the age of 16 were among the 59 casualties. the first confirmed death was an 8 year old girl.
Maybe next time before you post literally anything from Alex Jones, think that over again....
And this is why I never listen to anything you post on politics. Fake post.
You completely selectively quoted him and were triggered by a few words instead of listening to his point. Did you grab that from a liberal site where they were all criticising him?
I don't even care for him, I have no opninion on him.
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