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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Nepia did it take long to load?
If I was at home I would need to re-start the router multiple times before it would load. Luckily I'm at work, so we have passable speeds (4.66Mbps)for Sydney CBD adjacent, centre of the education sector etc.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Nepia fark.... I at least get 17/3 these days on fraudband.
Was at the new conference centre in Darling Harbour for a Google thing recently.
400 nerds in the room and the wifi was still cranking at 106Mb down and 120Mb up.
I live bloody close to that conference centre (near the Powerhouse museum and UTS) and yeah, I'm in drop out city. Just signed up with a new provider, they went to churn our account, and they couldn't because apparently out NBN account doesn't exist. So I don't know what the hell we've been paying for all these months. It's fucked.
What conference was it, I do my walks around that area and always wonder what the different conferences are (some are obvious, bogan musicians, Asian property buyers, weddings, gym type people etc).
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@Nepia said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Nepia did it take long to load?
If I was at home I would need to re-start the router multiple times before it would load. Luckily I'm at work, so we have passable speeds (4.66Mbps)for Sydney CBD adjacent, centre of the education sector etc.
4.66mbps in the CBD? I thought Australia was a first world country.
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@Damo its patchy as fuck because of the slapdash way the network has been put together over the years, particularly around older areas of Sydney where "I need a phone line" was the going concern at the time.
But its not just older areas: I live in one of the growth corridors of Sydney, so you'd think they would have just run fibre the same time as they put in electricity, gas etc. BUT they don't think like that, because individual land developers create the local infrastructure to onsell to property developers. There is very little coordination with the backhaul because it costs a fuckload, and they don't have the authority to do some things anyway.
There are basically two types of NBN (National Broadband Network) available:
- Fibre-To-The-Premises (FTTP) - optic fibre right into your house
- Fibre-To-The-Node (FTTN) - optic fibre to the nearest node/backhaul, then copper run to the home - often referred to as "Fraudband". Its VDSL, effectively.
A few streets from me, because the developers decided to invest, there is one side of the street served by FTTP. They get plans up to 100mbps
On the other side of the street, they're waiting to get FTTN and still using ADSL2. Some people are so far from the nearest node that their download speed on ADSL2 is better than what they get from copper NBN because of the higher tolerance of ADSL compared to VDSL.
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@Damo - the copper distance I have to travel to the nearest node is over 800m so I'm not even close to ideal conditions (< 300m) for VDSL speeds.
Its fucking rubbish, and a political football that the conservatives promised would cost less to deploy, but in fact is now costing more, is well behind schedule, and is going to need replacing in the next two decades as the copper degrades further.
Not to mention this MTM ("Multi-Technology Mix") approach actually costs more to keep a wider variety of techs upskilled to service the same population footprint.
The third leg of the equation is the wireless component for rural settings where running cable isn't cost-effective. There is still a small amount of HFC (i.e. cable TV lines) that service areas of the inner suburbs.
And then you have ministers saying "Well people don't NEED fibre because most of them are subscribing to 25mbps plans, see?!!"
Which is bullshit because most of us can't do better than 25mbps and figure we're better off not wasting the money.
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Yeah a few people are talking about gigabit speeds BUT you're still subject to whatever they stuck on the backhaul.
I hear Telstra FTTN customers in my area are getting fucked up when evening peak hits - speeds dropping from ~20-40mbps down to 3mbps.
All because Telstra skimped on the fibre running out of the pillar/node.
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@NTA said in The Interweb:
@Nepia fark.... I at least get 17/3 these days on fraudband.
Was at the new conference centre in Darling Harbour for a Google thing recently.
400 nerds in the room and the wifi was still cranking at 106Mb down and 120Mb up.
Don't know what you're talking about
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@dK said in The Interweb:
@NTA said in The Interweb:
@Nepia fark.... I at least get 17/3 these days on fraudband.
Was at the new conference centre in Darling Harbour for a Google thing recently.
400 nerds in the room and the wifi was still cranking at 106Mb down and 120Mb up.
Don't know what you're talking about
That's some awesome speed, maybe you should be researching the "mountain disrespecter" for us. @jegga is way too slow.
If Mrs dK catches you researching you can tell her from us that it's practically a public service duty.
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@dK said in The Interweb:
@JC I would love to help you guys out, but this is my work connection. Home, I'm lucky to get 12 down and 1 up (boom boom!!)
I was about to suggest that those were the speeds you get in the former PMs electorate.
That 4Mbps I mentioned earlier was my work speed.
@antipodean Why am I note surprised that Canberra has good speeds ....
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@antipodean said in The Interweb:
@Nepia It depends entirely on what suburb you're in. I could have the NBN tomorrow, but I'm certain it would be worse.
Is that cable?
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VDSL