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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    #525

    Must be a hard pitch to make runs on ... I think the word has been given to accelerate a bit to see what can get on the board (surely aim must be 150-200 lead) and we've only upped it from 2.something to barely 3.

    A beautiful quick fire cameo of 30 runs by one of the tail enders would be absolute gold dust right now.

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    @No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @Duluth said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @Chris-B. said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    Interesting thing in Kane vs Smith is that Kane is a year younger and only three hundreds behind. He started quite a bit younger for NZ, as a less complete batsman, so his average is probably compromised a bit by that.

    But Smith started batting at 8 as a specialist spinner? If Kane's average was 'compromised', so was Smith's

    @Chris-B. said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    Smith is certainly a cut above his teammates, but in his era people like Voges and Handscombe have also constructed hugely impressive averages.

    The surprising thing about the list of highest averages is how few modern players are in the top 20
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/282910.html

    Voges is an anomaly but most of the extremely high averages come from a long time ago. The modern guy who stands out on the list is Sangakkara, having that average across a huge number of games is incredible.

    Even more remarkable about Sanga's record is that he was a Keeper for a lot of that. His batting average, if memory servers me correctly, improved a lot when he gave up the gloves. I have him as the greatest player of the modern era.

    Is that counting Lara and Tendulkar?

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    @MN5 said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @Duluth said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @Chris-B. said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    Interesting thing in Kane vs Smith is that Kane is a year younger and only three hundreds behind. He started quite a bit younger for NZ, as a less complete batsman, so his average is probably compromised a bit by that.

    But Smith started batting at 8 as a specialist spinner? If Kane's average was 'compromised', so was Smith's

    @Chris-B. said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    Smith is certainly a cut above his teammates, but in his era people like Voges and Handscombe have also constructed hugely impressive averages.

    The surprising thing about the list of highest averages is how few modern players are in the top 20
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/282910.html

    Voges is an anomaly but most of the extremely high averages come from a long time ago. The modern guy who stands out on the list is Sangakkara, having that average across a huge number of games is incredible.

    Even more remarkable about Sanga's record is that he was a Keeper for a lot of that. His batting average, if memory servers me correctly, improved a lot when he gave up the gloves. I have him as the greatest player of the modern era.

    Is that counting Lara and Tendulkar?

    Yes. Gayle too, as controversial as you may find that.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    #528

    150 lead up ... if the forecast I read of rain tomorrow is accurate, then to continue batting seems just bizarre - especially for 3 runs an over.

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    #529

    I'll keep typing, as everytime I type something ... something good happens ...

    CDG to get his 50 then declare maybe? ..

    Although the psychological barrier of 500 runs on the board is in touching distance now ...

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    @MajorRage said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    especially for 3 runs an over.

    Going at 8's for the last 3 or 4 overs, so definitely worthwhile batting a bit longer at that rate.

    I think they'll keep smacking it until the lead is 200.

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    @No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @MN5 said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @Duluth said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    @Chris-B. said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    Interesting thing in Kane vs Smith is that Kane is a year younger and only three hundreds behind. He started quite a bit younger for NZ, as a less complete batsman, so his average is probably compromised a bit by that.

    But Smith started batting at 8 as a specialist spinner? If Kane's average was 'compromised', so was Smith's

    @Chris-B. said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    Smith is certainly a cut above his teammates, but in his era people like Voges and Handscombe have also constructed hugely impressive averages.

    The surprising thing about the list of highest averages is how few modern players are in the top 20
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/282910.html

    Voges is an anomaly but most of the extremely high averages come from a long time ago. The modern guy who stands out on the list is Sangakkara, having that average across a huge number of games is incredible.

    Even more remarkable about Sanga's record is that he was a Keeper for a lot of that. His batting average, if memory servers me correctly, improved a lot when he gave up the gloves. I have him as the greatest player of the modern era.

    Is that counting Lara and Tendulkar?

    Yes. Gayle too, as controversial as you may find that.

    Now you're just talking shit.

    My order would be Lara, Tendulkar, Sanga and then Gayle.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #532

    Henry out and replaced ... so maybe the tactic is bat til CDGH gets out.

    Or maybe it's just bat, bat, bat, bat bat ... which if forecast is ok for tomorrow is probably the right one.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #533

    Still warm and humid so I wouldn't be changing plans for the weather. The rain is only expected to occur towards the end of play today and tomorrow.

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    #534

    All out for 489

    Lead of 175

    Kane's 176 the only difference really

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    @Gunner said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    All out for 489

    Lead of 175

    Kane's 176 the only difference really

    He got one more run for luck

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    #536

    Waste of 20 mins in my view. 3/13 in last 4 overs. Stupid ... and they've taken tea, so no tricky little period for them to navigate.

    Couple of psychological advantages taken away. Dumb.

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    @Gunner

    Actually that's pretty impressive when you put it that way. Take away our best batsman (and number two injured) and we're only one run behind South Africa.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #538

    Last couple of wickets go down pretty quickly and we don't quite have a 200 lead and don't really get the very quick 50 odd runs I was hoping we might get from Colin, Henry, Patel and Wagner.

    Still - weather permitting, 136 overs left in the game (I think) and should take the Jaapies at least 60 overs to get past our lead. So we've probably got nearly 110 overs to bowl them out.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Chris B.
    #539

    Ha - CdGh trundles in at about 123 kmh, but gets an edge from Elgar and we have the first of 10!

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #540

    de Bruyn looking pretty nervous, as well. He had a swish at the last ball of Henry's over and could easily have nicked it.

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  • MN5M Online
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    For a pretty shit cricketer CDGH is really good.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #542

    @MN5 said in NZ v SA Test Series:

    For a pretty shit cricketer CDGH is really good.

    His test batting and bowling averages are currently pretty close to Sir RJ Hadlee's! 🙂

    Meanwhile poor old de Bruyn gets run out in shambolic circumstances.

    He's watching the ball and runs straight into Amla and they both fall over - leaving Theunis stranded.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #543

    There are very very few situations where it's ok to be run out in a test match.

    This is certainly not one of them. Always going to need a bit of luck today ... any chance of 8 more strokes of them?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #544

    Another DRS debacle but I heard a noise watching it live. Worth taking a punt in that situation because the worst case scenario is that you don't review it and there is a little edge.

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