Crusaders v Blues
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@Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:
@hydro11 The NZRU has no reason to tolerate consistent failure, especially in their biggest market. They're not a science experiment, they're a business.
The Blues do well in general. They just suck against New Zealand teams and the competition punishes them for that. Making the Blues do better will just be at the expense of other New Zealand teams and it is something that wouldn't be afforded to another franchise.
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@KiwiMurph a player can get a whole lot better in 2 years. Hunt wasn't even starting 10 for Ta$man last year. Feeny had the Auckland backline humming
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@hydro11 Do you think that the NZRU is a disinterested observer dedicated to objective analysis of provincial organisations?
Their objective is to maximise the performance of NZ Rugby. That means that they have to deliver performance for their largest market.
They run the game. They contract the players. Tolerating continual non-performance in their largest market is negligence. What kind of competent business would operate like that?
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@Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:
@hydro11 Do you think that the NZRU is a disinterested observer dedicated to objective analysis of provincial organisations?
Their objective is to maximise the performance of NZ Rugby. That means that they have to deliver performance for their largest market.
They run the game. They contract the players. Tolerating continual non-performance in their largest market is negligence. What kind of competent business would operate like that?
In what sort of competition does the national governing body intervene to ensure that their favourite team wins?
It would be like the NRL letting the Storm breach the salary cap because they want to grow the game in Melbourne. It's preposterous.
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I did not say win the competition. I said ensure competence. You have created a strawman there.
NZ Rugby could not be more different to the NRL. There are many franchises in Sydney, not one. Players are centrally contracted by the NZRU. They have near total control of everything. They cannot abdicate responsibility in their largest market.
If they want to keep losing ground to soccer in Auckland, they are going the right way.
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Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:
1 - first choice/AB
2 - first choice/AB
3 - first choice/AB
4 - first choice/AB
5 - first choice/AB
6 - first choice
7 - injury replacement
8 - injury replacement
9 - rotating duo
10 - injury replacement
11 - injury replacement
12 - first choice/AB
13 - injury replacement (and a late one, too)
14 - injury replacement
15 - injury replacementVery heavy at the front, very light at the back.
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@Stargazer said in Crusaders v Blues:
Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:
1 - first choice/AB - 28
2 - first choice/AB - 25
3 - first choice/AB - 29
4 - first choice/AB - 23
5 - first choice/AB - 28
6 - first choice - 25
7 - injury replacement - 26
8 - injury replacement - 26
9 - rotating duo - 25
10 - injury replacement - 21
11 - injury replacement - 21
12 - first choice/AB - 28
13 - injury replacement (and a late one, too) - 21
14 - injury replacement - 20
15 - injury replacement - 22Very heavy at the front, very light at the back.
It's even clearer if you look at their age!
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What's Tom Coventry up to? He's an expert at getting the most out of his packs. Things like maul defense is his bread and butter.
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@muddyriver Hickey still had an average season despite the luxury ride he got that season. Auckland fans were calling for him to be dropped - for example he cost Auckland home advantage in Eden Park loss to Canterbury during regular season. Hunt barely got a run.
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@muddyriver said in Crusaders v Blues:
@KiwiMurph a player can get a whole lot better in 2 years. Hunt wasn't even starting 10 for Ta$man last year. Feeny had the Auckland backline humming
Hunt was pretty good for Auckland off the bench. I wouldn't hold it against Hunt not starting for Ta$man, Marty Banks is kind of like a superstar at ITM Cup level.
Although our backline was humming, Hickey was atrocious(him and his brother) that year. I've never seen a 10 look so average behind such a dominant pack, especially at ITM Cup level.
(Editors note: dominant, not dominate. Common Fern grammatical error.)
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@Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Dice said in Crusaders v Blues:
Tom Coventry
New North Harbour coach.
Oh yeah, I know that, I just want him to pop in and give us a helping hand.
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@Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:
I did not say win the competition. I said ensure competence. You have created a strawman there.
NZ Rugby could not be more different to the NRL. There are many franchises in Sydney, not one. Players are centrally contracted by the NZRU. They have near total control of everything. They cannot abdicate responsibility in their largest market.
If they want to keep losing ground to soccer in Auckland, they are going the right way.
They are competent though. They are probably the 7th or 8th best team in the competition. You haven't backed up your assertion that they aren't competent.
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@Tim Nick white was the forwards coach that year....
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@Stargazer said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Stargazer said in Crusaders v Blues:
Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:
It's even clearer if you look at their age!
And even more so if you look at the changes made around halftime when we were down heavily.
Well, actually, a different point, but crikey, the second/third string did well.
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@hydro11 Are you kidding me? They are one from four. They have not made the playoffs since 2011. Their last five seasons have been 12th, 10th, 10th, 14th, and 11th. They have the richest and largest player pool in the best rugby country in the history of the world. They have gone from dominance to nothing since Henry left 14 years ago. The case for incompetence could not be clearer!
This is yet another completely bogus argument from you.
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