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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
Always good to have depth in certain positions but Dagg might find himself as an AB bench-warmer again with the return of NMS.
Nonsense. Just chuck NMS on the left wing and you've got the best All Blacks backline: 11 NMS 14 Dagg 15 Bender
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Official NZR media release about Dagg re-signing:
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@Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan.
Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan.
Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.
"in decent form" being the operative words. Savea hasn't had that form for a long time. Naholo hasn't been convincing either.
One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan.
Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.
"in decent form" being the operative words. Savea hasn't had that form for a long time. Naholo hasn't been convincing either.
One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.
and yet he keeps getting picked...
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan.
Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.
"in decent form" being the operative words. Savea hasn't had that form for a long time. Naholo hasn't been convincing either.
One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.
Don't want to keep White Knighting Savea but his form in black has been fine. He ripped the Wallabies a new one at Eden Park to ensure we took the record consecutive test wins when they were seriously pushing us that game - or have you forgotten that already?
Canes fans can feel a bit aggrieved at his form in 2015, but other then that he's been pretty solid. 'Solid' isn't good enough for Savea detractors though, if he's not playing like Lomu reincarnated then he should be dropped.
There's also the obvious point that the AB selectors want at least one strong ball runner in their back three to compliment two fullbacks, so he's really competing with Naholo who has been inconsistent at best in black.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.
That's going to be interesting as even though it's been signalled that Jordie will be used as a FB for the Canes he's not guaranteed to start with NMS, Savea and Jane as other options in the back three.
DMac will be at FB for the Chiefs again this season but I'm sure he'll be moved to 1st 5 in 2018 to replace Cruden.
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A few more current All Blacks whose contracts expire in 2017:
Coltman, Liam
Crotty, Ryan
Fekitoa, Malakai
Kerr-Barlow, Tawera
Luatua, Steven
Perenara, TJ
Read, Kieran
Squire, Liam
Tamanivalu, Seta
Whitelock, SamAnd a few on the (wider) fringes:
Bird, Dominic
Elliott, Hika
Franklin, Tom
Jane, Cory (to retire?)
Hames, Kane
Parsons, James
Weber, BradOr did I forget to write down a re-signing?
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan.
Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.
"in decent form" being the operative words. Savea hasn't had that form for a long time. Naholo hasn't been convincing either.
One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.
and yet he keeps getting picked...
Savea is exactly the same on my PS4 team as he is in real life (well last couple of seasons as opposed to the Rolls Royce version of before). Has average games but because he's on the wing he scores tries from run ins and gains lots of metres before bumbling in to a tackler, so statistically he looks awesome.
TBF, the creators of the game gave him really shit stats that he didn't deserve, Zac Guildford is better at beating players in the game than Savea is.
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Well if PS4 Savea is out of form then that settles it.
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@No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:
Well if PS4 Savea is out of form then that settles it.
Yep, we also need to select Cory Jane on the wing, Ardie Savea at 8 (shout out to Canes4Life), the 19 year old and 22 year old Cullen and Umaga I've created - and Hugh Renton at 7 who actually plays ok and isn't constantly injured.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
A few more current All Blacks whose contracts expire in 2017:
Whitelock, SamA relatively important name one would think. More important than Smith and Dagg for me.
Read too - but let's face it he isn't giving up the captaincy and will return.
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@rotated Yes, that's why I wondered whether my list is up-to-date. I can't find anything more recent than a Crusaders media release from October 2013 saying that Whitelock and Read had re-signed "through until the end of the 2017 season".
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According to stuff from Sept 4, Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
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@No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer Wishful thinking as a Hawke's Bay fan.
Savea will be picked if in decent form so it's between NMS and Dagg for the no.14 jersey. NMS has only ever played on the right wing for the ABs.
"in decent form" being the operative words. Savea hasn't had that form for a long time. Naholo hasn't been convincing either.
One thing is clear, with Jordie also in the mix, Dmac will probably get few chances in black.
Don't want to keep White Knighting Savea but his form in black has been fine. He ripped the Wallabies a new one at Eden Park to ensure we took the record consecutive test wins when they were seriously pushing us that game - or have you forgotten that already?
Canes fans can feel a bit aggrieved at his form in 2015, but other then that he's been pretty solid. 'Solid' isn't good enough for Savea detractors though, if he's not playing like Lomu reincarnated then he should be dropped.
There's also the obvious point that the AB selectors want at least one strong ball runner in their back three to compliment two fullbacks, so he's really competing with Naholo who has been inconsistent at best in black.
Quoted so it gets reiterated.
