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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #1135

    @Stargazer good work, great summary. Wonder why this sort of factual information isn't actually being reported in the main stream media. Takes a couple of internet searches and a bit of reading.

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    I think he's in deep shitski here. NZRU had an annus horribilus last year from a PR point of view - I can't see any other outcome outside of completely throwing the book at, and making an example of, him.

    Whether that is just or not, not for me to say.

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    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby News:

    I think he's in deep shitski here. NZRU had an annus horribilus last year from a PR point of view - I can't see any other outcome outside of completely throwing the book at, and making an example of, him.

    Whether that is just or not, not for me to say.

    Because the breach of the anti-doping rule (if the B-sample is also positive) happened either during the Rugby Championship or the EOYT, the ruling will not be NZR's to make, but either SANZAAR's or World Rugby's. As I posted earlier, there are set penalties for this kind of violations and there are reductions that apply in case the player can establish lack of intent/knowledge/recklessness etc. What I understand from the little real information that has been published by the media, that's what PT is now working on (at the same time awaiting for that B-sample).

    It's also normal practice to take into account a player's record, which - I think - is pretty clean in PT's case (especially relating to doping).

    All will also depend on the additional anti-doping rules from SANZAAR/WR.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
    What I understand from the little real information that has been published by the media, that's what PT is now working on (at the same time awaiting for that B-sample).

    It's also normal practice to take into account a player's record, which - I think - is pretty clean in PT's case (especially relating to doping).

    The B-Sample is only tested at the athletes request. So far PT hasn't requested that going by reports.

    If he is completely befuddled and has no idea how this substance was found the first course of action would be to demand the B Sample is tested as it could have been a false positive (has happened plenty in other sports).

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    If the personal reasons are that his mum gave it to him then I'm fine with it.

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    @No-Quarter said in Super Rugby News:

    If the personal reasons are that his mum gave it to him then I'm fine with it.

    He's not going to look skinny though, is he 🙂

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    #1141

    Ben Smith re-signs with NZR and the Highlanders until 2020.

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    #1142

    Who is that guy in the brown suit? Seen him on a few things related to the clan, but never known who he is.

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    #1143

    NZR media release about Ben Smith:

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/30328/it-s-new-zealand-rugby-for-ben-smith

    New Zealand Rugby has also confirmed that as part of the long-term deal, Smith also has an option of an extended non-playing break from the game in order to manage his workload and an early termination option post Rugby World Cup 2019.
    
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    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby News:

    Who is that guy in the brown suit? Seen him on a few things related to the clan, but never known who he is.

    Sam Casey. I'll leave my opinions about him to myself...

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    Great to hear that Bender has re-signed. The reported options in the contract look attractive to a front line AB at this stage of his career.

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    either i missed it, our you guys are ignoring the best story of the off-season so far. Dipshit returning Red Scott Higgenbotham has been charged after it appears he drunkenly tried to break his mate out of jail for taking a piss in public.

    One count of assaulting police, and one count of being unlawfully being on police property or some shit.

    He's been told to stay home from training. While i don't expect anything to come of it, it's pretty fucking funny.

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    @mariner4life Ahahahaha What a muppet. I'd have used the taser about 50 times for my own amusement.

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    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

    either i missed it, our you guys are ignoring the best story of the off-season so far. Dipshit returning Red Scott Higgenbotham has been charged after it appears he drunkenly tried to break his mate out of jail for taking a piss in public.

    One count of assaulting police, and one count of being unlawfully being on police property or some shit.

    He's been told to stay home from training. While i don't expect anything to come of it, it's pretty fucking funny.

    😆

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    Very disappointing really. I'd expect any frontline AB to know Israel Dagg scored the first try at WC 2011.

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    replied to Smudge on last edited by MajorRage
    #1150

    @Smudge said in Super Rugby News:

    @MajorRage said in Super Rugby News:

    Who is that guy in the brown suit? Seen him on a few things related to the clan, but never known who he is.

    Sam Casey. I'll leave my opinions about him to myself...

    Cheers ... although it still sort of leaves the question unanswered. Who is he? Just a fan, or does he have another actual role there?

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    Good news about Smith but one can only assume NZR increased their iniital offer and probably added these attractive options/out clauses.

    Now we wait for Dagg...

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    #1152

    Drug Free Sport representative apparently on radio (second hand) saying Patrick T is either out for 4 years if drug taken deliberately, or 2 years if inadvertent.

    I can't validate as I didn't hear it, but if that's on the radio, then it sounds legit.

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    @nzzp

    (Speculation)

    I think the ban starts from the provisional suspension, so IF he gets found guilty of inadvertent use and gets two years, he'll be available for 2019 Super Rugby, which might mean it's not all over for him?

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    If it's from inadvertently taking something banned then that would be a pretty devastating blow to the big man. Yeah you can say he should be more careful, but having his professional sporting career ruined by a genuine mistake would be tough to take.

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