Ire v Aus
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@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Hasn't Koribete just signed or allegedly in the process of signing with Toulon?
wrong Fijian winger. Radradradardardara from Parramatta is apparently signing for them (he's been trying to get out of the Eels for 12 months). Didn't show up to court the other day too.
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@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Hasn't Koribete just signed or allegedly in the process of signing with Toulon?
Not Koribete, the other Fijian winger who plays for the Eels is the guy you are thinking of. His name is Semi Radradra.
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@barbarian said in Ire v Aus:
Oh I thought he meant our 23 that played on the weekend.
Quade's mother is an Aussie, so he's not a residency player. Korobeite definitely is, and we also are in the process of qualifying Taniela Tupou, aka the Tongan Thor.
They are the only other two that spring to mind.
Yeah, he might have been referring to the 23. I never knew Quade's mum is an Aussie.
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@mariner4life @akan004 ah ok, my bad, only caught part of the headline this morning, just heard former NRL winger or similar...
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@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Yeah that's true, he was never an Aussie citizen. But as I understand it you can qualify through family, as Toby Smith and Mike Harris did.
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@barbarian all good, we'll donate him to you
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Yeah Quade caught in the John Howard law chance. Emigrated months after the change in 2001 I think. Very hard for him to get citizenship.
Think that eventually would have rules him out of Olympic 7s.
I think it was actually pretty easy - Quade's road block was satisfying a 90 day consecutive residency period in Australia the year prior to applying. He was an NZ citizen plying his trade in the South of France. Very tricky to cry fowl that he couldn't get his citizenship processed.
Cooper would likely have the ways/means to achieve Australian citizenship in a variety of ways if he so chooses. He may well have already.
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Yeah Quade caught in the John Howard law chance. Emigrated months after the change in 2001 I think. Very hard for him to get citizenship.
Think that eventually would have rules him out of Olympic 7s.
I think it was actually pretty easy - Quade's road block was satisfying a 90 day consecutive residency period in Australia the year prior to applying. He was an NZ citizen plying his trade in the South of France. Very tricky to cry fowl that he couldn't get his citizenship processed.
Cooper would likely have the ways/means to achieve Australian citizenship in a variety of ways if he so chooses. He may well have already.
...cry fowl...
Desperately trying to think of some chicken jokes.
But instead all I can come up with is cry foul.
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@barbarian said in Ire v Aus:
@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Yeah that's true, he was never an Aussie citizen. But as I understand it you can qualify through family, as Toby Smith and Mike Harris did.
You don't need to be citizen (do you?). Just resident for 3 years.
Edit; is it necessary for the Olympics?
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@barbarian said in Ire v Aus:
@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Yeah that's true, he was never an Aussie citizen. But as I understand it you can qualify through family, as Toby Smith and Mike Harris did.
You don't need to be citizen (do you?). Just resident for 3 years.
Edit; is it necessary for the Olympics?
IOC requires it. World Rugby does not. In any event Quade wasn't a resident of Aus leading up to the Olympics he was playing (or not playing as a healthy scratch) for Toulon.
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@barbarian said in Ire v Aus:
@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Yeah that's true, he was never an Aussie citizen. But as I understand it you can qualify through family, as Toby Smith and Mike Harris did.
You don't need to be citizen (do you?). Just resident for 3 years.
Edit; is it necessary for the Olympics?
IOC requires it. World Rugby does not. In any event Quade wasn't a resident of Aus leading up to the Olympics he was playing (or not playing as a healthy scratch) for Toulon.
I have always felt "citizenship" requirement is more easily bypassed. How many Kentan runners found that gaining Bahraini (or other middle eastern country of convenience apologies is it was in fact Qatar or Oman or someghing ... ) was remarkably easy as processes were ummm altered to suit.
Citizenship in and of itself should not be enough. Needs an additional criteria like residency or parentage IMO.
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@booboo meh who gives a shit? The olympics is a bloated corporate nationalistic dick-waving contest based on who can throw the most cash at the medal table. It's long ceased to be the pinnacle of pure human athletic endeavour.
Finding a small reason why an Aussie can't represent Australia seems incredibly pointless
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@barbarian said in Ire v Aus:
@taniwharugby said in Ire v Aus:
@barbarian while I don't care about the ins and outs, wasn't there a thing last year before the RWC about Quade not being a citizen?
Yeah that's true, he was never an Aussie citizen. But as I understand it you can qualify through family, as Toby Smith and Mike Harris did.
You don't need to be citizen (do you?). Just resident for 3 years.
Edit; is it necessary for the Olympics?
IOC requires it. World Rugby does not. In any event Quade wasn't a resident of Aus leading up to the Olympics he was playing (or not playing as a healthy scratch) for Toulon.
I have always felt "citizenship" requirement is more easily bypassed. How many Kentan runners found that gaining Bahraini (or other middle eastern country of convenience apologies is it was in fact Qatar or Oman or someghing ... ) was remarkably easy as processes were ummm altered to suit.
Citizenship in and of itself should not be enough. Needs an additional criteria like residency or parentage IMO.
Agreed on citizenship. Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland are all British UK citizens. People born in Northern Ireland also automatically qualify for Irish citizenship. Longer residency 5-7 years for playing for Tier 1 Nations. 2-3 years for Tier 2. And re-capping after two years for Tier 2 players.
