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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    You can sort of excuse Oliver on the pitch in real time etc, but VAR?
    Having said that I have read some commentators supporting the red.

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    VAR couldn't overturn it because they could see where contact was made. Factor in that it was already a certain yellow for it being a "professional foul" then it is definitely more than a yellow. 20250128_083725.jpg

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    The Gomes challenge was worse. Of course, he should have received a second yellow before then for kicking the ball away. But Oliver...

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    @Bovidae said in EPL 2024/2025:

    The Gomes challenge was worse. Of course, he should have received a second yellow before then for kicking the ball away. But Oliver...

    But his yellow was his second and therefore he was off anyway. VAR isn't going to stop the game to review a potential red.

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    @KiwiPie It should still have been a red irrespective of having a yellow card. Oliver's decision also influenced the punishment (3 games vs 1 game). There is no consistency.

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    There never will be consistency, every incident is different, the state of every game is different. I'm not saying it wasn't a harsh red as it was but it also wasn't the worst decision ever which the screeching ex-players keep on calling it. If it had been "just a trip" then VAR would have corrected Oliver but he actually saw it perfectly. If you look at Lewis-Skelly after he makes the challenge he knows he's in trouble because he knew what he'd done.

    Anyway my main complaint is that the relentless focus on referees and accusations of bias against them WILL NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER! The standard of refereeing will just go down as nobody will want to put themselves through all the abuse. It also sucks the joy out of the sport and the same happens with rugby and this site is terrible for that. Rant over.

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    Pretty sure it will end against the pool, but the three longest Premier League unbeaten streaks are also the longest gathered by any sides over the course of the season: Liverpool 18, Arsenal 13, Bournemouth 11, with the Cherries last losing back on November 23.
    Still pinching myself that we are currently in the same breath as these two

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    @bayimports said in EPL 2024/2025:

    Pretty sure it will end against the pool, but the three longest Premier League unbeaten streaks are also the longest gathered by any sides over the course of the season: Liverpool 18, Arsenal 13, Bournemouth 11, with the Cherries last losing back on November 23.
    Still pinching myself that we are currently in the same breath as these two

    Looking back on the season, it has been more of a story of Bournemouth giving points away to teams they should beat - otherwise they would be in the top 3. Crazy that you can go to an inform Newcastle and beat them 4-1 with 12 senior players - then take on Forest's miserly defence and pump 5 past them (with another goal ruled out for offside that would have been the best of the lot). Iraola must have that squad so well drilled that he can throw a midfielder in at right back and a winger at centre-forward ... who gets a hat-trick. I would Kevin Keegan love it if they could topple Liverpool as well.

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    wrote on last edited by middleman
    #314

    Fulhams season stuffed by our inability to take decent chances. So need a proper striker for next season because they were never going to buy in this window.
    Absolutely loving Bournemouths season. Not that long ago that we like many others looked down on them in a patronising way.
    When he was appointed I thought Iraola had walked into real spiders web but his achievements this season already make him manager of the year for me.

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    @KiwiPie Even in the games we played against teams we should have beaten the xG was high, just weren’t able to find the back of the net.

    Whether the accuracy that has more recently occurred is more confidence than anything else I don’t know, but the recent conversion rate has been insane. Players just stepping into new roles due to injury and performing regardless.

    After Liverpool we play against mainly teams below us, acid test will be performing against them from here on out, Both Forest and the cherries have a lot to play for unexpectedly

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    Arsenal's appeal was successful so Myles Lewis-Skelly's red card has been overturned.

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    Jan 28  /  Football

    ‘Let’s get this hatred out of football’: Mikel Arteta on threats against referee

    ‘Let’s get this hatred out of football’: Mikel Arteta on threats against referee

    Arsenal manager demands change in game’s ‘culture’ and new rules to stop abuse of players or officials

    That is what is known in common parlance as pot calling the kettle black.

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    John Duran off to Saudi Arabia for 64 million quid - looks like the boy was keen to make as much money as quickly as possible. Can't see Watkins moving to Arsenal now, although apparently he's quite keen to go. Rumour is that Villa want 80m quid.

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    Think Villa will be sad to see him go, was very impressive this season especially when Watkins wasn’t scoring. Coach probably only annoyed they never really gelled playing together. It was one or the other.

    Still good funds for Villa

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    @bayimports said in EPL 2024/2025:

    Think Villa will be sad to see him go, was very impressive this season especially when Watkins wasn’t scoring. Coach probably only annoyed they never really gelled playing together. It was one or the other.

    Still good funds for Villa

    Conversely maybe they know he just had golden streak of hammering in a few great goals and are cashing in while they can - and given he has gone to Saudi, no doubt he was pushing Villa to give him a massive pay rise.

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    I'm pissed he's gone. He's a genuine world class player waiting to happen and yes, I would prefer him leading the line to Watkins. Watkins, for all his good link up play, can't shoot. He looks like a winger playing as a striker. Duran would have had 15 goals by now had he been leading the line and I'm being serious. The guy was a gun and I'm gutted he's gone. People who don't watch Villa play week in week out, don't see the amount of chances Watkins wastes infront of goal. He scores about 1 in 4, and I do think he's a decent player, but Duran had a higher ceiling than Watkins imo.

    Never mind, it's done now. Hope Ollie has a big 2nd half of the season.

    Good luck to him.

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    winning streak ends, but we had our chances and didnt play that badly, hopefully we can still maintain momentum. A bit like Forest who came roaring back to life

    ....and well done Fulham, nice upset

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    @bayimports Thanks. Just Fulham being Fulhamish. The first half was dire and we could have been 3 down. Very good second half and we took chances that often we dont.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    Statement performance from Arsenal. Worst result of the weekend was Ipswich town losing at home to Southampton . I know Brighton got thumped but Ipswich needed to win if they want to stay up.

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    Fulham have 18 points from ten games against the 9 other teams in the top half and in 14 games against the bottom half we have 18 points

    Meanwhile Arsenal thrash City 1-0 at half time. Haaland equalised after 15 but Arsenal went back in front immediately and then embarrassed City.

    What is in the water in MAanchester?

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