Australia v India
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@antipodean said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Bumrah nudges the career average under 20. 180 wickets in 41 tests at 19.94.
Absolutely exceptional. Exactly one run less than the legendary Malcolm Marshall.
With their absolute obsession with cricket it’s probably fair India finally get themselves a world beating paceman.
World beating?
Yes
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@antipodean said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Bumrah nudges the career average under 20. 180 wickets in 41 tests at 19.94.
Absolutely exceptional. Exactly one run less than the legendary Malcolm Marshall.
With their absolute obsession with cricket it’s probably fair India finally get themselves a world beating paceman.
World beating?
Yes
What were the results of his last series?
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@antipodean said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@antipodean said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
Bumrah nudges the career average under 20. 180 wickets in 41 tests at 19.94.
Absolutely exceptional. Exactly one run less than the legendary Malcolm Marshall.
With their absolute obsession with cricket it’s probably fair India finally get themselves a world beating paceman.
World beating?
Yes
What were the results of his last series?
Apparently NZ won 3-0 but I’m still not sure I believe it
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I don't think the public criticism in Australia is a surprise, it's been coming. We've played relatively poorly in every home series going back to the last Ashes in 2021. Dropped games we should have won.
People know that it's been a long time between drinks for our top order. The fact that there doesn't seem to be a logical next man up is the only thing saving Marnus. Uzzie hasn't scored a hundred in forever and retirement will be knocking on the door if he can't turn that around.
If we lose the second test it will be really interesting to see what can be done, not for this series but for the Ashes next year. I can't see them dropping all of Marnus, Ussie and Smith but there will be a case for it.
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
.... Aaaand he knicks off to Siraj for 17. Never looked comfortable.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
.... Aaaand he knicks off to Siraj for 17. Never looked comfortable.
Does he ever when he first arrives at the crease?
I don’t think the drums will beat that loud given Australian cricket and the commentariat fluffers to back the old boys club. Been going on for years and Smith will be able to say when he’s had enough.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I don't think the public criticism in Australia is a surprise, it's been coming. We've played relatively poorly in every home series going back to the last Ashes in 2021. Dropped games we should have won.
People know that it's been a long time between drinks for our top order. The fact that there doesn't seem to be a logical next man up is the only thing saving Marnus. Uzzie hasn't scored a hundred in forever and retirement will be knocking on the door if he can't turn that around.
If we lose the second test it will be really interesting to see what can be done, not for this series but for the Ashes next year. I can't see them dropping all of Marnus, Ussie and Smith but there will be a case for it.
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
The production line from the late 90s right up until the 2010s seemed endless. One sensational player would replace another with minimal disruption, particularly in the batting department.
I see the new opener doesn’t exactly have an amazing FC record, sounds like there’s guys of that ilk ready to step in when Smith etc go.
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The irony of talking up any Australian downfall is that when they play us, they will still win
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@bayimports said in Australia v India:
The irony of talking up any Australian downfall is that when they play us, they will still win
Might need to recall Doug Bracewell……
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
The irony of talking up any Australian downfall is that when they play us, they will still win
Might need to recall Doug Bracewell……
and play us in Tassie again
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
.... Aaaand he knicks off to Siraj for 17. Never looked comfortable.
He's batting like he's not seeing basketballs anymore, but that was a pearler of a delivery!
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@bayimports said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
The irony of talking up any Australian downfall is that when they play us, they will still win
Might need to recall Doug Bracewell……
and play us in Tassie again
Mitch Santner is the new Doug Bracewell now to be fair
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I think the talk of the demise of Australian cricket is way of the mark.
There is enough in SS to bring through and there is some outstanding young talent
coming through the U/19 and U/17 programs like
Steve Hogan rated very highly in QLd as a batsmen
Oliver Peake from victoria another batsmen
Tom Campbell from Qld bstsmen
Addison Sherrif Nsw pace bowling allrounder
Simon Budge from WA batsmen -
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
I don't think the public criticism in Australia is a surprise, it's been coming. We've played relatively poorly in every home series going back to the last Ashes in 2021. Dropped games we should have won.
People know that it's been a long time between drinks for our top order. The fact that there doesn't seem to be a logical next man up is the only thing saving Marnus. Uzzie hasn't scored a hundred in forever and retirement will be knocking on the door if he can't turn that around.
If we lose the second test it will be really interesting to see what can be done, not for this series but for the Ashes next year. I can't see them dropping all of Marnus, Ussie and Smith but there will be a case for it.
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
The production line from the late 90s right up until the 2010s seemed endless. One sensational player would replace another with minimal disruption, particularly in the batting department.
I think that's true but it didn't go as late as you suggest. We've been devoid of new batting talent for a considerable while. Marnus has been good but he's not an all time great. Travis Head could get there but it's taken him a while to get there. Likewise Marsh.
We're a long way from where we were with the Shield where you had guys like Brad Hodge, Michael Bevan, Stuart Law averaging 50, 60-odd and not getting a gig.
Now anyone feels like they are two or three hundreds away from a call-up.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
.... Aaaand he knicks off to Siraj for 17. Never looked comfortable.
Does he ever when he first arrives at the crease?
I don’t think the drums will beat that loud given Australian cricket and the commentariat fluffers to back the old boys club. Been going on for years and Smith will be able to say when he’s had enough.
I think for Smith that's true. But Marnus is an interesting case. Always a bit weird, both on and off the field. Alpha ex-player types have never warmed to him, so I'm unsure he will get the benefit of the doubt in the same way Smith and Khawaja will.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
So Smith on 17* at the moment has plenty to prove. Get 40-odd and he keeps the wolves from the door for at least the next few weeks. But he goes before that and the drums will start to beat...
.... Aaaand he knicks off to Siraj for 17. Never looked comfortable.
Does he ever when he first arrives at the crease?
I don’t think the drums will beat that loud given Australian cricket and the commentariat fluffers to back the old boys club. Been going on for years and Smith will be able to say when he’s had enough.
I think for Smith that's true. But Marnus is an interesting case. Always a bit weird, both on and off the field. Alpha ex-player types have never warmed to him, so I'm unsure he will get the benefit of the doubt in the same way Smith and Khawaja will.
Marnus aye I coached him at Qld u/17 and U/19 level always has been different.
One habit we had to get out of him he would commentate every ball he faced.
It did piss the bowlers off no end,
They just used to try and knock his head off sometimes that worked in Manus favour.
