Amazed me to see some question ALBs inclusion in the squad.
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Amazed me to see some question ALBs inclusion in the squad.
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@Canerbry Delusional
@toddy All Black fullback type of pace
All Black fullback type of try
Go and watch some of his highlights for the Canes last year, he was fucking brilliant and would have lead most of the stats if he didn’t miss those first two rounds.
I kept track of the stats and thats not true at all. Jordie had more carries than Jordan throughout the season and was way down on every attacking stat and it wasnt even close. Jordan was either 1st or 2nd in metres made/defenders beaten/tries. Jordie wasnt close in ANY attacking category (wasnt in the top 10 for pretty much all of them) yet had more carries than Jordan throughout the season.
@bones hahahah to be fair rugby season just started up again but yes..I think he has great talent if used correctly. You may see me start arguing for Jordan more if I feel he's being unjustly critiqued. Waste of time but the discussion is fun.
@bones read as very sarcastic XD...in either case, Gatland has no future at 10 for this Chiefs team. There is literally no ceiling for this team with a player that limited at 10.
@bones so your argument against him is the run he had that set up a try if it wasnt for the leading elbow by the chiefs player? NICE!
@canes4life Also not forgetting at the peak of the Jordie hype, I was told that Jordie is so talented he can play any position in the backline, yet playing at 14 (as near as you could get to 15) he suddenly loses all his superpowers.
Btw Jordans amazing game at 14 last year where he did more in 20 mins than Jordie did all season, Jordan was also out of position at 15.
@canes4life Jordie had games at fullback, and was just as average. People seem to forget this.
@bones XD..
I cant help but comment when I see fallacious statements being made. I also backed Jordan over Jordie for all of last year while people thought Jordie was a lock on somehow even though he has been completely average every international game he has ever played.
Gatland over Dmac is a take I can only fathom from someone who doesnt watch the games. If Dmac starts at 10 this Chiefs team will do well this season, the irrational hatred of Dmac always amazes me.
@antipodean Dmac got the Chiefs to the semis a few years back. If you seriously think Gatland is a better choice at 10 I don't know what to say.
Dmac to 10 next week
@westcoastie said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
I genuinely feel Dmac is our best 10 potentially..even though I feel that experiment doesnt seem anywhere near currently..
BB has been out of form since 2017, Mounga hasn't been bad but I just think Dmac offers a higher ceiling. Hopefully he gets a full season at 10 for the Chiefs.
BB has been out of form, because hes playing out of position. 2017 was IRB best player on the planet...
Out of position??
2018-19 he played 11 out of 12 tests at 10. Then took the full back role for the rest of the 2019 world cup.
Hardly getting mixed around constantly as you claim.
He hasn't been the same since 2017. Note that before his breakout year in 2016, he was still very effective and dynamic coming off the bench at either 10 or 15. He doesnt have that same impact currently. Seems to prefer to jog into contact or bomb if further than 20 meters out from the opposition tryline.
When is the last time he has actually took the line on when countering from the back?
@voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Yes because BB and Mounga are just TOO good currently to try something else..
Well, that's an argument I have no counter for!
Just saying we should be asking questions. Otherwise don't be shocked leaving the next world cup with nothing again.
Shit, I'm ok with asking qns. I'm just very far from convinced that Dmac to 10 will be the move that sees us lift the trophy in 2023! To me he is a big step down from either RM or BB, and that's saying something on current form.
I'm not saying chuck him in now. I'm saying I'd like to see him at 10 for the Chiefs the entire season next year.
Besides, BB will be 32 next world cup, I dont imagine him being better than he is now, especially as his pace starts to diminish.
Mounga I don't really have a problem with, except that he doesnt seem to have the ability to take control of an entire game at this level currently. I'd rather develop Mounga/Dmac at 10 going forward and see who comes out on top. BB will need to start performing well soon as his highlights are becoming more sparse and the gaps between games where he is in form are increasing.
@voodoo said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Yes because BB and Mounga are just TOO good currently to try something else..
Well, that's an argument I have no counter for!
Just saying we should be asking questions. Otherwise don't be shocked leaving the next world cup with nothing again.
@Crazy-Horse said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@kpkanz said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@raznomore Because the AB coaches pushed for him to be played at 15. As I said, the one season he played 10 the entire time he got the Chiefs to the playoffs losing by one point away.
And the past four seasons RM got the Crusaders the title.
Yes because the setup the Chiefs have currently is clearly analogous to what Robertson and the Crusaders have got going XD
Yes because BB and Mounga are just TOO good currently to try something else..
@raznomore Because the AB coaches pushed for him to be played at 15. As I said, the one season he played 10 the entire time he got the Chiefs to the playoffs losing by one point away.
@Toddy Except you only have one game with Dmac so cant really confirm that