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She's pro-Labour but an interesting take
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is it though?
So far, apart from the Mail going on about it, no one has actually identified whether she's done anything wrong. Dan Niedle has been excellent on this subject, likely max tax evaded (which again, we don't know if it was evaded) is about £3.5k.
a. we don't know if anything was owed at all, we don't know which her designated primary residence was (this is a designation, it doesn't matter whether she was living in it at the time), we don't know when she left one to choose the other and whether it was inside 18 months from when she sold it during which time principal residence relief would apply. We don't know if she did any work on the house to improve it which would again would be deductible. Basically, we don't know anything but to this point HMRC haven't been concerned.
b. even if none of the above apply and she did pay the wrong amount of tax, we have no reason to assume that was intentional, making a mistake on tax is not a crime, evasion has to be intentional. Ultimately, this is a personal tax situation and if HMRC are happy then the rest of us don't need to know anything.
The notion that this instance is the same as some of the things the Tories have done baffles me, to me its simply the Daily Mail pursuing what is a minor issue and equating it with Zahawi etc - it is hilarious.
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Is whether she did anything illegal really the point though?
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She accused Tory MP's of tax avoidance and demanded they (and their wives IIRC) publish all their tax details but insists her tax affairs are private.
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She lambasts Tory MP's for employing tax advisers to avoid tax but did exactly that herself.
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She demanded BoJo resign as he was under police investigation, but when she's under police investigation it's "different".
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She's against the current Right To Buy scheme but is happy to use the scheme and get a £26k discount when it suits her
In the last few weeks she's exposed herself to accusations that she's an entitled, wealthy, multiple-house-owning hypocrite with one set of rules for her hated "tory scum" and another for herself.
That's not a minor issue for the Labour Deputy Leader and likely Deputy PM.
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Look, if she did something wrong, then fine throw the book, but it seems likely to be a storm in a tea cup. The amount of fuss being made doesn’t seem like it should be equivalent to the non dom and awarding contracts situation of the Sunak’s nor the underpayment by Zahawi etc. it is an entirely different scale and potentially entirely different level of intent to avoid than others.
If she was a Tory, I doubt this would have got a second days coverage
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@Dodge said in British Politics:
it is an entirely different scale and potentially entirely different level of intent to avoid than others.
Scale has nothing to do with it - it's the hypocrisy and double-standards on show which is the issue.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@Dodge said in British Politics:
it is an entirely different scale and potentially entirely different level of intent to avoid than others.
Scale has nothing to do with it - it's the hypocrisy and double-standards on show which is the issue.
so there we part ways, scale and intent absolutely matter to me.
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@Dodge Yes, it is.
Vorderman would be going nuts if this was a Tory. She has proven this time and time again. Her Social media is a litany of accusations against Torys.
As it's not, she's doing whataboutery.
It's the literal definition of double standard.
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Certainly both scale and intent are important, but, as others have pointed out, she is not really getting castigated for (intentionally or not) dodging a bit of tax, she is getting it for being a massive hypocrite and side stepping stuff that she labels others as scum for doing.
She is a poster girl for divisive, hyperbolic, personally insulting politics.
Hateful person
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IMO she's only a hypocrite if she's actually intentionally dodged tax, and we don't know if she's paid the right amount, let alone if she's dodged some on purpose. Without sounding like a conspiracy theorist, i tend to think the only reason this is getting this level of continuous coverage in the Mail is because she's a working class female Labour MP.
I also don't agree with you that she's a hateful person, I think she comes across pretty sane on any long form interview, Rest is Politics, Political Party etc, she's had a hell of a life and her journey is testament to a huge personality and force of will. The one off the cuff comment about Tory's being scum was a mistake IMO, but its hardly crime of the century.
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@Dodge said in British Politics:
IMO she's only a hypocrite if she's actually intentionally dodged tax, and we don't know if she's paid the right amount, let alone if she's dodged some on purpose. Without sounding like a conspiracy theorist, i tend to think the only reason this is getting this level of continuous coverage in the Mail is because she's a working class female Labour MP.
I don't think the working class female has anything to do with it. She's a high profile Labour MP, so she's going to be under scrutiny from the press.
I also don't agree with you that she's a hateful person, I think she comes across pretty sane on any long form interview, Rest is Politics, Political Party etc, she's had a hell of a life and her journey is testament to a huge personality and force of will. The one off the cuff comment about Tory's being scum was a mistake IMO, but its hardly crime of the century.
Pretty much so agree, but do hold the scum comment to a slightly higher level of culpability than you.
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@Dodge said in British Politics:
The one off the cuff comment about Tory's being scum was a mistake IMO, but its hardly crime of the century.
Hardly one-off. She's been at it for years and defines her politics by her hatred of people with differing political views to herself. Always happy to play the working-class victim card and cry foul when people call her names though.
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Well all that was interesting
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So a Tory MP has had the whip removed for misuse of campaign funds and it seems the big story is whether or not there was misuse of funds, but for me the big story should be about the reason for needing the money in the first place.
I mean, what the fuck was he doing?
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He's a complete clown. Should have said the money was to change gender and it's all a smear campaign as he's now a working class girl...
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So Met Police threaten to arrest Jewish bloke because his existence at a rally is likely to incite those rallying, in part because he is, and looks, Jewish.
They fumble the apology and apologise for the apology.
Anyone got a link to the first one?
(Who posted that scene with the Chief Inspector repeatedly apologising? Life imitating art ... )
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@booboo said in British Politics:
Anyone got a link to the first one?
Imagine if an openly-black person was told walking near a Tommy Robinson march was provocative.
The emails between Falter and the Met Police after he complained were even more farcical
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Holy Moly
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