The Silver Fern

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@antipodean said in France v Argentina:

@WestieFella said in France v Argentina:

@antipodean said in France v Argentina:

@brodean said in France v Argentina:

@antipodean said in France v Argentina:

@brodean said in France v Argentina:

@NTA said in France v Argentina:

@brodean said in France v Argentina:

@Billy-Tell said in France v Argentina:

Looked like a penalty try to me. That was a slap in a forward direction. Even if ball maybe went sideways. Think this score line puts NZs effort into perspective. The French fullback is having a very good game. Dupont too he’s making all the right decisions.

The ball went backwards a metre.

The referee explained why he made that decision. And it was pretty obvious on repay

Yep his reasons are clearly not in the laws of rugby. The law does not mention hand direction. You must intentionally knock the ball forward to be penalised and he did not knock the ball forward. It must be intentional and it must be knocked forward. Two components need to be satisfied which weren't.

You don't have to knock on to be penalised for deliberately knocking the ball out of play.

He didn't delibrately knock the ball out of play.

Of course he did. His own body language afterwards showed that.

He knocked the ball backwards and then it bounced to the side.

His action was forwards and towards the sideline. That much is obvious. In doing so he's violated law 7 b.

.... but the ball went backwards... he gave a penalty try and yellow card for something that didn't happen, and after watching a reply of it not happening. What little chance Argentina had was ruined by an obviously wrong call.
I'm not up on all the rules, but I would of thought a knock on is dependent on the ball going forward.

Don't get caught up in Pearce's confusion. He arrived at the right outcome possibly following the wrong process.

I guess it's one of those things I'll never understand.
Just like when I just miss a call from the wife, and when I dial back immediately she's nowhere near the phone...

@antipodean said in France v Argentina:

@brodean said in France v Argentina:

@antipodean said in France v Argentina:

@brodean said in France v Argentina:

@NTA said in France v Argentina:

@brodean said in France v Argentina:

@Billy-Tell said in France v Argentina:

Looked like a penalty try to me. That was a slap in a forward direction. Even if ball maybe went sideways. Think this score line puts NZs effort into perspective. The French fullback is having a very good game. Dupont too he’s making all the right decisions.

The ball went backwards a metre.

The referee explained why he made that decision. And it was pretty obvious on repay

Yep his reasons are clearly not in the laws of rugby. The law does not mention hand direction. You must intentionally knock the ball forward to be penalised and he did not knock the ball forward. It must be intentional and it must be knocked forward. Two components need to be satisfied which weren't.

You don't have to knock on to be penalised for deliberately knocking the ball out of play.

He didn't delibrately knock the ball out of play.

Of course he did. His own body language afterwards showed that.

He knocked the ball backwards and then it bounced to the side.

His action was forwards and towards the sideline. That much is obvious. In doing so he's violated law 7 b.

.... but the ball went backwards... he gave a penalty try and yellow card for something that didn't happen, and after watching a reply of it not happening. What little chance Argentina had was ruined by an obviously wrong call.
I'm not up on all the rules, but I would of thought a knock on is dependent on the ball going forward.
Serious question, does the ball have to go forward to be a knock on. Is there a circumstance when it can be a knock on if the ball goes backwards?

@Billy-Tell said in France v Argentina:

Looked like a penalty try to me. That was a slap in a forward direction. Even if ball maybe went sideways. Think this score line puts NZs effort into perspective. The French fullback is having a very good game. Dupont too he’s making all the right decisions.

Looks like he just tried to pop it over the French head to try re-gather.
The fact it actually went backwards is what gets me. Surely it can't be a deliberate knock on if it doesn't go forward.
I think I'm pissing in the wind though...

The ball went backwards, so how's that a knock on ?

Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.

Me too, I mean me neither...

Will the Nations Championship put a stop the this, or will the French devalue that as well?

The more I think about the new playoff & lucky loser concept the more I think it doesn't suck.
It's 100 times better than the current format of 8 out of 12 make the playoffs.
Also, others have said if the #1 seed loses to #6 then they are still guaranteed to get through, so why wouldn't they put out a weakened team? Well if #1 did lose then they drop to a lower seed # and could therefore lose home advantage if they make end up making the final.
The higher up the table you finish the more chance you get to get a second chance.
At first I thought it was a terrible concept, but I'm coming around to it.
They probably should have given it a better name though, like 2nd chance.

1.44 David Kirl to Kirwan, the same move as the rwc final the following year against france again. Almost identical, expect JK did score it in the final.

Interesting vid about locating stadiums in cities...