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@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

@fcc said in All Blacks vs England 2:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:

We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.

This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.

Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.

I used it as an example us playing too much in our 22, and even our own half. Do you disagree we went out to run it?

It was a poor example as perofeta put himself under pressure.

We looked to counter attack if we had space more than we did last week. This was a counter to the rush defence, try to attack against a broken line. By and large it worked, if we had faster wingers it could have been very lucrative. Both wingers couldn’t take the outside breaks offered to them. Hence why I think Jordan comes back into this team on the wing very soon.

However, from static ball or if we were under pressure in our own half we kicked. Our kicking game was poor at times (particularly at the start of the 2nd half) and we should have have used Jordie Barrett more. As above, perofeta would have most likely kicked in that situation as there was limited opportunity if he gathered the ball cleanly and had time, luckily he did very well under extreme pressure.

@frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

How shit was our lineout. Kind of embarrassing really.

People will blame Taylor, but Tuipulotu and Barrett got dominated... need one or the other with a taller lock. Issue is, Lord can't stay fit and Holland is not yet available.

Darry worth a crack?

There is a reason they wanted whitelock back, we don’t have that dominant lineout player in NZ currently

Has their been a slower pair of wingers ever for the all blacks, pretty sure will jordan is going to walk straight into the side once fit.

@Tim

Barrett at 10, controlled the game in the 2nd half

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks vs England 2:

We are so loose, when Perofeta ran from his line when he had plenty of time to kick I think he showed what the game plan was.

This is one of the most idiotic comments I have seen on this forum and that is in along history of idiotic comments.

Perofeta clearly screwed up, put himself under pressure and used his footwork to get out of it. It had nothing to do with the game plan, it was all skill execution and pressure. Plan A would have been to kick it.

@No-Quarter three straight all black coaches have not selected Akira, the GPS data is his downfall

@mariner4life Yes!

Papalii rubbish

Papalii is not a test player

The Rueben Thorne of the team then

Is papalii playing?

Another dirty fluffybunny

Zero wrap, finau is a dirty fluffybunny

Thank god they didn’t pick that lazy fuck Akira

When Ireland have the ball, they manipulate the defence and force mismatches. When the all blacks have the ball, there is no plan, they don’t create mismatches and eventually get isolated and turn the ball over.

This is worse than 1998. Back then several key players retired, there are no excuses here, it is just shit coaching.

Fire the fat fluffybunny foster

@mariner4life heard from someone who has spent time around their camp that Gatland replaced their playbook from previous years with an A4 sheet of paper. There was a big focus on keeping things simple and giving the likes of Cruden and Mackenzie freedom.

Great Game.

The intensity was right up there. Blues came out to dominate physically and they did that in the first half and the early part of the 2nd half. The loose trio were great in the early stages. Sotutu looks like a complete player. Tuipolotu again was good and is the form lock in the competition. Their eagerness in defense put the Crusaders key players, most notably Mo'unga and Havili, under pressure and they made mistakes. However at times their aggressive defence got them in trouble when tacklers ended on the wrong side and got trapped. In years gone by they may have been fine but the standards in this competition, they were penalised. This kept the Crusaders in touch on the score board.

For the Crusaders they struggled to get go forward early. Only really Moody and Taylor got over the advantage line. Having journeymen at 6 and 8 is an issue. Taylor was good around the field but there were clearly some line out issues. Although they weren't entirely his fault, Douglas appears to have some technique issues with his jumping. His arms appear to come late and wide as opposed to fast and narrow. Whitelock is missing some support. Strange was very good off the bench and potentially should start next week.

Christie stood up in defense early and had a really solid game. Bridge as many have mentioned was excellent. He ran down Telea and saved a try, his work under the high ball on attack and defence was excellent and his draw and pass for the try was text book. He handled the pressure as well as anyone on the field.

Ultimately the Blues were unable to maintain the initial intensity. The crusaders wore them down. Mo'unga and Havili started to find space. Barrett had a few shockers late with a kick out on the full and the dropped high ball.