Crusaders 2024
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@Duluth Probably not far away.
Ferg made a few big blunders (Dave made at least one as well), but given he hadn't played for about a year, he did enough to show he would've been the best option if fit (and the match results reinforce that).
I missed some of the early season so only watched highlights of some games.
Edit: No idea about Harford. I can't recall ever seeing him play though I probably have.
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What happened to Manasa Mataele this year - was he injured or just never required?
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Is Aumua going to return? Don't think he will
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@george33 said in Crusaders 2024:
Is Aumua going to return? Don't think he will
He is contracted for 2025
Edit he signed on for 2 years,The Crusaders may release him from the 2nd year if he isn't happy or they are not happy with him.
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Surely there must be a few we can get back from the Northern Hemisphere and Japan.
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@Chris-B said in Crusaders 2024:
What happened to Manasa Mataele this year - was he injured or just never required?
He was out with a couple of injuries during the season but he did play a bit for his club Marist/Albion during the SR so was fit for a fair chunk of SR.
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@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Surely there must be a few we can get back from the Northern Hemisphere and Japan.
A few conversations going on.
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@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Surely there must be a few we can get back from the Northern Hemisphere and Japan.
Tiaan Falcon surely
@Chris said in Crusaders 2024:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Surely there must be a few we can get back from the Northern Hemisphere and Japan.
A few conversations going on.
Wether they lead to signings we will have to wait and see.Tiaan Falcon from Toyota Verblitz it's got to be surely...
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Otere Black?
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injuries, defections, and filling every gap with a guy in his late 30s for the fastest rugby comp going around
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For next year, these promising players could (should ?) be included in the WTG : Grant (1st Five), Hutchinson (fullback), Solomon (wing), O'Donovan (halfback), Lee (loose forward), Jack (lock) and Letiu (hooker).
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@mariner4life said in Crusaders 2024:
injuries, defections, and filling every gap with a guy in his late 30s for the fastest rugby comp going around
The departures of coaches Razor & S.Hansen - I'd argue the most significant factor, and that will become more apparent when the All Black season commences...
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Why hasn’t there been a Crusaders team naming for this weekend?
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@cgrant said in Crusaders 2024:
For next year, these promising players could (should ?) be included in the WTG : Grant (1st Five), Hutchinson (fullback), Solomon (wing), O'Donovan (halfback), Lee (loose forward), Jack (lock) and Letiu (hooker).
What Solomon are you referring to?
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Oops, sorry, Stanley Solomon is one of your young guns !
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@cgrant said in Crusaders 2024:
Oops, sorry, Stanley Solomon is one of your young guns !
God damn, I thought you guys had nabbed him for a sec. He hasn’t signed with the Canes yet so there’s a chance but aren’t the Saders pretty settled in the outsides now Reece is staying?
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@cgrant said in Crusaders 2024:
Oops, sorry, Stanley Solomon is one of your young guns !
God damn, I thought you guys had nabbed him for a sec. He hasn’t signed with the Canes yet so there’s a chance but aren’t the Saders pretty settled in the outsides now Reece is staying?
Is sevu Reece staying?
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@family-man There's been nothing anywhere to suggest he isn't...
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Scott Barrett and Codie Taylor Re committed to 2027, actually thought Barrett was already signed until 2027
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@george33 said in Crusaders 2024:
Scott Barrett and Codie Taylor Re committed to 2027, actually thought Barrett was already signed until 2027
No Barrett was previously signed to 2025.
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Now time to do some poaching.
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@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Now time to do some poaching.
It is what they are best at so I would expect a fair bit of movement. It’s going to be an interesting few months seeing what they can pull off. Do they still have that same pulling power now that Razor isn’t there? Time will tell…
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@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2024:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Now time to do some poaching.
It is what they are best at so I would expect a fair bit of movement. It’s going to be an interesting few months seeing what they can pull off. Do they still have that same pulling power now that Razor isn’t there? Time will tell…
The Saders still have plenty of pulling power and a bonus of not making the playoffs is the coaches and management can spend all their time looking to next year.
What are the main recruitment areas for the Crusaders in 2025?
To me the below 23 looks decent and you'd expect them to definitely be a top 6 team next year.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Newell
- Barrett
- Hannah
- Grace
- Blackadder
- Lio-Willie
- Hotham
- Reihana (I'm putting him here for now but this could change, I feel like he wasn't given enough time in the saddle this year).
- Springer
- Havili
- Ennor
- Reece
- Jordan
- Bell
- Bower
- Brewis/Calder
- Strange
- Christie
- Drummond
- Kemara
- McLeod
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@Canes4life Jordan is he signed yet ?
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Unfortunately a few will leave
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2024:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Now time to do some poaching.
It is what they are best at so I would expect a fair bit of movement. It’s going to be an interesting few months seeing what they can pull off. Do they still have that same pulling power now that Razor isn’t there? Time will tell…
The Saders still have plenty of pulling power and a bonus of not making the playoffs is the coaches and management can spend all their time looking to next year.
What are the main recruitment areas for the Crusaders in 2025?
To me the below 23 looks decent and you'd expect them to definitely be a top 6 team next year.
- Williams
- Taylor
- Newell
- Barrett
- Hannah
- Grace
- Blackadder
- Lio-Willie
- Hotham
- Reihana (I'm putting him here for now but this could change, I feel like he wasn't given enough time in the saddle this year).
- Springer
- Havili
- Ennor
- Reece
- Jordan
- Bell
- Bower
- Newell
- Strange
- Christie
- Drummond
- Kemara
- McLeod
we need
2 props. to replace Franks and Moody
1 LF We only picked 6 in 2024 due to picking a 4th Hooker to cover Taylor,Would expect we go for a 7th LF and drop the 4th Hooker.
1 HB To replace Heinz
1 First five to replace Burke
MF Ennor comes back for Crotty
maybe 1 or 2 outside backs to replace Halfpenny which could be McNicol being retained.
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@Landers92 said in Crusaders 2024:
@SBW1 said in Crusaders 2024:
Now time to do some poaching.
It is what they are best at so I would expect a fair bit of movement. It’s going to be an interesting few months seeing what they can pull off. Do they still have that same pulling power now that Razor isn’t there? Time will tell…
The Saders still have plenty of pulling power and a bonus of not making the playoffs is the coaches and management can spend all their time looking to next year.
Yeah mate like I said it is what they are best at. They know what they are doing when it comes to that side of things.
They well and truly have pulling power, a lot more than most teams, but my question was is it still the same as when Razor was there. It’s like anywhere when they get a new coach, what comes with that is usually a new direction and Razor was known as one of the best and you always hear players want to play for him kind of thing was more my point.
We’ve seen so far at the Chiefs, Blues and Canes, those clubs have managed to get almost everyone they can resigned for next season or beyond. That is generally a time when one or 2 of those guys might have eyed up a move south is my point.
It’s an interesting time in New Zealand rugby, it isn’t often you have teams with obvious holes that need filled. In the Crusaders case they have a fair few which is very rare.
As I have said on here a few times before, the Crusaders will be fine. They are a class organization who have set the standard in super rugby and I have no doubt they will be back in the mix next season. I’m just interested to see how recruitment plays out.
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@Landers92 agree with everything you've said. It's going to be interesting for all the clubs that are recruiting for the same position because there definitely isn't as much depth to choose from these days with players choosing contracts abroad. e.g. most teams will need to recruit wingers for next season so there will be plenty of competition for certain signatures in that position alone.
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
@Landers92 agree with everything you've said. It's going to be interesting for all the clubs that are recruiting for the same position because there definitely isn't as much depth to choose from these days with players choosing contracts abroad. e.g. most teams will need to recruit wingers for next season so there will be plenty of competition for certain signatures in that position alone.
It should end up being a conversation around what the teams can offer the player. We see you starting in the upcoming season v you are probably going to hold tackle bags. Or it is likely our starting player may leave in 2026 and you are lined up for their spot. This is the style we expect to play and it aligns with how you play. I get a bit bemused when players settle for suiting up in club rugby, and holding tackle bags instead of getting game time.
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders 2024:
Liam Napier: The Crusaders need a first five - here's who they should target for 2025
The suggestions were Jacomb, Cruden, Sullivan, JOC
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Cruden and JOC def fit the 'grab the oldest fluffybunny around' modus operandi of Penney
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@Machpants said in Crusaders 2024:
Cruden and JOC def fit the 'grab the oldest fluffybunny around' modus operandi of Penney
Jacomb and Sullivan the best options of those four. JOC and Cruden well passed it.
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id be surprised if jacomb or sullivan were available
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@ploughboy said in Crusaders 2024:
id be surprised if jacomb or sullivan were available
Both do not have contracts anywhere yet for next year as yet.
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@Chris said in Crusaders 2024:
@ploughboy said in Crusaders 2024:
id be surprised if jacomb or sullivan were available
Both do not have contracts anywhere yet for next year as yet.
no announced contracts
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