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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Chris-B said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life Yeah - Catalyst loomed up at the turn, but probably worked too hard to get there.
I don't think the trip in transit was the issue at all. He landed a lovely spot and only got up 3-4 wide 400m out. He was pulling too much in the running & it almost looked like he was on the wrong leg in the straight. I was a little concerned how toey he seemed to be behind the barriers before the race, so maybe he just had a bad hair day.
He was in the right spot, just didn't kick on when it was time.
I've had a shit day. Probabeel my only winner
I've got a hunch that my whole betting career - past and future - is going to be redeemed in about 24 minutes!
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@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Chris-B said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life Yeah - Catalyst loomed up at the turn, but probably worked too hard to get there.
I don't think the trip in transit was the issue at all. He landed a lovely spot and only got up 3-4 wide 400m out. He was pulling too much in the running & it almost looked like he was on the wrong leg in the straight. I was a little concerned how toey he seemed to be behind the barriers before the race, so maybe he just had a bad hair day.
Was disappointing that’s for sure. A couple of trainers I talked to a while back said when they took horses over they seem to go better first up and flat second.
How good were the Te akau two tho. Just awesome
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@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Just asked the lads at the tab and they’ve added a promo for any 2 of them to win at $6. Not bad considering effective odds based on current prices would be $2.50 to $4.50 depending on the potential outcomes.
https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/6801/thoroughbred-specials/outrights
First call special
Great value
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@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Chris-B said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life Yeah - Catalyst loomed up at the turn, but probably worked too hard to get there.
I don't think the trip in transit was the issue at all. He landed a lovely spot and only got up 3-4 wide 400m out. He was pulling too much in the running & it almost looked like he was on the wrong leg in the straight. I was a little concerned how toey he seemed to be behind the barriers before the race, so maybe he just had a bad hair day.
Was disappointing that’s for sure. A couple of trainers I talked to a while back said when they took horses over they seem to go better first up and flat second.
How good were the Te akau two tho. Just awesome
The Shark was cooked, but that finish...
Randwick was fair as fuck today, I hate that
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Alligator Blood is a ripper
Can’t stay alive at 6/5.
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Salacious Crumbreplied to JK on 29 Feb 2020, 15:04 last edited by Salacious Crumb 29 Feb 2020, 15:23
@JK said in Rough tips and other bets...:
How good were the Te akau two tho. Just awesome
I thought the Shark was cooked, too. Great finish. Terrific horse.
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I have to jump into this Saudi card. In addition to the $20M main event there’s seven other million dollar races. Race 1 went to a 44-1 shot; Race 2 went to a 28-1; and Race 3 had a Superfecta payout of $117K. Race 4 comin’ up... this is Powerball fever...
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Thirty minutes away from the richest horse race that has ever been run...
The $1.5M sprint championship just finished, and it was one of the most amazing finishes I’ve seen in a while. They haven’t shown the replay, sadly. I think punters were ripping their tickets with a half-furlong to go, the Japanese champ was ten lengths clear. Irad Ortiz Jr just pulled another golden horseshoe out of his ass, a 10-1 shot I made sure to include in my double.
Update: That Sprint race really needs to be seen to be believed.
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MAXIMUM SECURITY is a beast. Takes out the Cup. Spellbinding finish. $10-million 1st prize for a horse that started it’s career as a $16,000 claimer. Incredible.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Thirty minutes away from the richest horse race that has ever been run...
The $1.5M sprint championship just finished, and it was one of the most amazing finishes I’ve seen in a while. They haven’t shown the replay, sadly. I think punters were ripping their tickets with a half-furlong to go, the Japanese champ was ten lengths clear. Irad Ortiz Jr just pulled another golden horseshoe out of his ass, a 10-1 shot I made sure to include in my double.
Update: That Sprint race really needs to be seen to be believed.
It's like I'm watching Chataqua!
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How good was the racing on Saturday?
The Derby was won by a true stayer, Alligator Blood was incredible, Te Akau Shark can not win from back there, does Opie think he's on Winx? Probabeel stunning too.
Huge day on the punt for a change as I have been a bit hopeless.
Mickey tipped us London Banker too so that put a big bow around the New Zealand racing for the day.
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Mate it was awesome!
AB is a beast of a horse that just keeps arising to the challenge
Im still fizzing at that te akau double. I was away for the weekend with a few lads who arent in to their racing but I explained to them about the 3 group 1 races on and how our kiwi horses were gonna represent.
Told them both exactly how probabeel and shark would win by screaming home and flying over the top of them. We cheered them home hard!
Was a shame Catalyst didnt really feature at all in the Guineas though, blinkers may have been a different story and surely must go on for the all star mile.
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Cant get enough of this. HUGE result for NZ racing
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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
How good was the racing on Saturday?
The Derby was won by a true stayer, Alligator Blood was incredible, Te Akau Shark can not win from back there, does Opie think he's on Winx? Probabeel stunning too.
Huge day on the punt for a change as I have been a bit hopeless.
Mickey tipped us London Banker too so that put a big bow around the New Zealand racing for the day.
great racing, but not profitable racing...
i just read Alligator Blood cost $55,000....
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
How good was the racing on Saturday?
The Derby was won by a true stayer, Alligator Blood was incredible, Te Akau Shark can not win from back there, does Opie think he's on Winx? Probabeel stunning too.
Huge day on the punt for a change as I have been a bit hopeless.
Mickey tipped us London Banker too so that put a big bow around the New Zealand racing for the day.
great racing, but not profitable racing...
i just read Alligator Blood cost $55,000....
Jennifer Eccles cost $4,000! They are my favourtie stories!. We got the half sister to Escudo for chicken sh*t in Jan and she is filling out beautifully. (Was tempted to pay up for Karaka Millions) We will pay up for Pearl Series though.
Now we wait to see if she is as good as the rest of the family! Hope to be telling a great story.
We will break her in as a yearling as she looks as though she may make a two year old.
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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Jennifer Eccles cost $4,000! They are my favourtie stories!.
They are the best stories. As above, Maximum Security just won the richest race ever, and two years ago was available for $16K.
His sire had a piss-poor breeding record, and he had “unspecified physical problems” as a foal, so his owners and trainers didn’t rate him. They certainly never entertained the fanciful idea of entering him in Stakes races. So they entered him into a $16,000 claimer, like they would any plonker hoping to sell him, meaning anybody with 16K could have put in a claim and owned him.
Nobody did.
Horse only went out on his debut in that claimer and won by 9-3/4 lengths. He was so dominant breaking his maiden his trainer figured wtf, let’s put him in the Florida Derby. He won, and got automatic entry into the Kentucky Derby. Rest. Is. History.
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Salacious Crumbreplied to mariner4life on 2 Mar 2020, 04:05 last edited by Salacious Crumb 2 Mar 2020, 04:08
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
It's like I'm watching Chataqua!
I am bedazzled by this New York Central finish in the Saudi Sprint, and have now watched it at least a dozen times. The proverbial ”finding a different gear” and “coming from the clouds to win.”
One detail is transfixing me, and I’m hoping somebody who knows more about the sport can explain to me. What is going on here...?
Focus on the winner, the grey with red silks. Ortiz comes off the rail and edges out sharply to about four wide at the top of the straight. He gives the grey three hard whacks to straighten him out and get going. Somewhere in his momentum the grey seems to get spooked — is it another horse? Crowd noise? Ortiz giving him the stirrups or whispering in his ear?? He’s about 10 to 15 lengths back.
At the 51st/52-sec mark and for the next two seconds the horse throws his head up side-to-side back-and-forth then seems to stumble lose stride and misstep, then recovers and comes out of it exploding with an entirely different galloping stride. Check the hooves before and after he throws his head. Is the jockey trying to get him to change stride? Is the horse fighting the jockey? I thought for a second Ortiz might lose control, but looked mostly unfazed. Whatever happened there, at that point he wasn’t in the race but caught lightning.
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Went back and watched Chataqua winning. the 2016 TJ Smith is great, around the whole field
but the 2017 version is something else. At the 300 he's gone. At the 200 he has no chance. Then..
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Solomon in Race 2 Riccarton today. 6 horse field and I think he is the only one in that field to have run a sub 1:10 on that course. Track is a good 3 which is perfect for him and he's paying $5. I think that is reasonable value.
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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Solomon in Race 2 Riccarton today. 6 horse field and I think he is the only one in that field to have run a sub 1:10 on that course. Track is a good 3 which is perfect for him and he's paying $5. I think that is reasonable value.
and we were able to keep Jasmine on
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OOps! Favourite has run a quicker time than Solsy at Riccarton. My Bad
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Bonus bets back to 4th for ya for first $30 too
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@JK they have started the try-scoring one like they did in the RWC again too (may have been doing it, but today is first time I saw it)
Bet of $30 or more for anyone to score a try, and get $5 BB for every try scored in match...although this week unsure any will be try-fests.
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@taniwharugby said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@JK they have started the try-scoring one like they did in the RWC again too (may have been doing it, but today is first time I saw it)
Bet of $30 or more for anyone to score a try, and get $5 BB for every try scored in match...although this week unsure any will be try-fests.
Yeah saw that. I always play the NBA first buckets bonus bet one. Yesterday got a $28 bonus bet which I turned in to just under $600. The fav lost tho so didnt get my $20 stake back. Was smashing the womens cricket supersixes one too. Free bonus bets even if they were only hitting 2 to 4 sixes a game.
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my six bonus bets from saturday have dwindled to 2, as my country roughies just haven't come good for me...
For saturday i have early bets on Loving Gabby and Harlem, as i expect both to be in with a good chance, and both to come in
I also have a futures bet i had forgotten about with Melody Bell on the All Star Mile for $9
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Some Do back at Alex Park tomorrow night in R2. Listed Sires Stakes race for mares. She's capable enough and has drawn inside the hot favourite, so hopefully we actually see some gate speed tomorrow night or at least lands reasonably handy. My good mate is in town so we'll watch together, but we've never watched a winning effort from one of our horses together (in a tote race at least) so that is overdue to change.
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@Smudge haha i love "I'm due!"
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Smudge haha i love "I'm due!"
We've only watched a race together maybe 10 times out of all of our horses' combined starts of about 80 starts over the last 15 years, so we haven't given ourselves a huge chance...
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@Chris-B said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Smudge Is it just me or has Some Do had a bit of a rough deal with wide draws in recent times?
Yes and no. The last couple of races have been under Preferential Barrier Draw conditions, which means the higher-rated runners are given the worst draws. It's another form of handicapping.
But yeah, she hasn't had a lot of love on the draw front outside of that.
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Did a bit of work early but had her chance in the straight. Battling 4th. No excuses really. Maybe she's a bit tired - who knows.
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Debacle.
Bostonian at $10s is the only reason it's not the worst day ever
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Hah I got it at 15s!
Been a really good day here but not over yet. Need one to place in the last at ascot and for once no pike to stuff things up!
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Looking back at the day so far and...
32 runners on the short list
12 winners - best Bostonian, sangria, fifty stars
11 places (but not all runners backed to place)
3 trifectasMissed a 4 leg multi on nonpaer at morphetville meaning it’s was a non payer
8 out of 9 on my place multi and fingers crossed for the last -
Yuck
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The guaranteed Empire 6 jackpot today (Sunday) is a million dollars. Were these robbers a day early? Did they know the cash for the jackpot was being delivered?? I see movie possibilities. Love this New York Post headline.
Armed gunmen swipe ‘a lot of money’ in Aqueduct Racetrack heist
Two guys cleaned up big at Aqueduct Saturday night — robbing the Queens racetrack at gunpoint and making off with as much as a quarter-million dollars.
The brazen bandits, who were being sought Sunday morning, pulled the heist at around 10 p.m. Saturday, some four hours after the tenth and last race of the day, swiping “a lot of money,” according to an Aqueduct employee.
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And how’s this for opportunism, using a Covid-19 panic for cover:
“A police spokeswoman told The Post that the two robbers wore surgical masks and that the robbery occurred at the racetrack, not at the adjacent Resorts World Casino, which was open at the time.“
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@Salacious-Crumb When I first left school (in the days when everyone used cash), I worked for a bank in Christchurch.
After Show Weekend, we got the takes from both Riccarton and Addington (possibly two days at each). The Head Teller told me there was a million dollars on the table and it certainly looked that way. I always thought that if I was going to do a heist that would be my target.
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Aqueduct racetrack employee says armed robbery was an inside job
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I really hope USA racing cleans up this crap. It’s done state-by-state, but should have ripple effects. Some big name heads could roll...
NBC News: Federal prosecutors and the FBI in New York to hold a press conference at 11am today to announce charges against 27 people in the professional horse racing industry (including vets and trainers) in a scheme to allegedly illegally dope racehorses.
I’ll be watching the presser live later this hour...
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