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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="568758" data-time="1459426517"><p>
Jeez -there was some terrible cricket in those last few overs - especially the two set batsmen hitting consecutive balls down deep cover's throat.<br><br>
Unbeaten in the round robin we go 0/2 in the semis.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:8px;">(And nobody mention Linda Lovelace!) :)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>If you get a chance to see a replay of Kohli not being run out its the worst thing ever......</p>
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<p>India losing by 7 wickets is a nice consolation prize.</p>
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<p>West Indies get home with some huge Simmons and Russell hitting - Simmons twice caught off no-balls, added insult to injury the 2nd time by smashing the free hit for 6. Chasing 10/11/12 per over is a lot easier when you can smash regular 6s ..........</p>
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<p>Wow, have to say I was NOT expecting the White Ferns to choke like that after they have batted so well in the tournament.</p>
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<p>Thrilled for the Windies men, haha suck on that India.</p>
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<p>But now the Windies have the chance to take the men's and women's double. Whoda thunk that?!</p> -
<p>Thank fuck the Windies won, it would have been vomit inducing if India had gone through (and likely beat the Poms). Given they should have lost to the Bangles.</p>
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<p>Everyone knows I love the Windies and the English cricket team aren't a patch on their horrible other teams.</p>
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<p>In the absence of the BCs talk about win/win......</p> -
<p>Just saw a comment on Facebook (which I haven't been able to substantiate from any other source), that WI have been disqualified?</p>
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<p>April fools..</p>
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<p>Also, Windies or the English will make a great redemption story..</p>
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<p>Bugger, oh well never mind, carry on</p> -
Come on Windies, do it for the little guys!
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<p>Come on Windies, do it for the little guys!</p>
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<p>Its the windies T20 team, you mean "do it for the diamond earing wearing ferari driving multi millionaires!".</p>
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<p>And this is a Windies side without Pollard & Narine too.</p>
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<p>Makes a great final, fingers crossed for a Darren Sammy 50 getting the Windies home, tho' I do feel for Kohli, talk about having to carry your overpaid shithouse teammates.</p> -
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<p>Its the windies T20 team, you mean "do it for the diamond earing wearing ferari driving multi millionaires!".</p>
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<p>And this is a Windies side without Pollard & Narine too.</p>
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<p>Makes a great final, fingers crossed for a Darren Sammy 50 getting the Windies home, tho' I do feel for Kohli, talk about having to carry your overpaid shithouse teammates.</p>
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<p>Yes, that's what I meant :good1:</p>
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<p>I also meant, do it for the little guys. Ie: anyone but the piston wristed gibbon 'big three', who think their shit don't stink and that the cricketing world must revolve around them.</p> -
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<p>"Do it for all the chippy little bastards!" doesn't have quite the same ring, eh? :)</p> -
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<p>Also, Windies or the English will make a great redemption story..</p>
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<p>Redemption from being previous winners you mean?</p> -
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<p>Redemption from being previous winners you mean?</p>
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<p>England was embarrassed last year at the odi cwc.. didnt make the quarterfinals..</p>
<p>And the Windies with their ongoing drama with their players contracts and so on.. </p> -
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<p>England was embarrassed last year at the odi cwc.. didnt make the quarterfinals..</p>
<p>And the Windies with their ongoing drama with their players contracts and so on.. </p>
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<p>England won in 2010, Windies in 2012. Their T20 teams don't need redeeming, in contrast Australia, NZ, SA, given T20 should be right up their alley - and SA have hosted, need redeeming. They've been pigshit. Running up to this England beat NZ, Aussie, India & then thrashed Pak 3-0 in UAE</p>
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<p>Its like saying the Fijian sevens team making a final is redemption because their 15's team is utter shit.</p>
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<p>Add to that England won it last time with a bunch of guys no one had heard of (bar KP), and are in the final this time after dumping alm ost all their specialist T20 players, guys like KP, Bopara, Wright, Carberry who have been lighting up shit like the Big Bash. </p> -
<p>its nothing like the 7s team..</p>
<p>most of the cricket teams are generally the same.. and im pretty sure they have the same coach(es).. and most of the time, the same captain..</p> -
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<p>its nothing like the 7s team..</p>
<p>most of the cricket teams are generally the same.. and im pretty sure they have the same coach(es).. and most of the time, the same captain..</p>
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<p>In T20's? Bullshit.</p>
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<p>They are barely half the team usually - often less than that. And the same captain is rare. Bailey used to be the specialst short for Aussie captain. Afridi leads Pak, Morgan England, when England won it last Collingwood was the captain & the likes of Lumb & Keiswetter were stars.</p>
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<p>Look at our bowling unit. Only Satner plays tests, Nmac, Mitch, Milne, Elliot are all T20 & sometimes ODI only guys. Munro is batting 3. Boult couldn't get a game & he's ranked what 7th in the world in tests & FIRST in ODIs. Anderson is ranked 12 in ODIs & Jordan 76. Anderson doesn't get in the T20 squad</p>
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<p>England are using their specialist T20 unit (No Broad or Anderson there), the guy who fucked us - Roy, has never played a test, Eoin Morgan is a specialist short form captain, Andre Russell has played one test & 40 T20's. Charles has never played one. Glenn Maxwell is close to the highest paid T20 player around, nowhere near the Aussie test side. Toss in Faulkner, Finch, Pollard, literally 90% of the top T20 guys are T20 specialists who get a decent shot at ODIs maybe but are nowhere in tests.</p> -
<p>20/20 is awesome!</p>
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<p>Windies need 19 off 6. Cue 3 consecutive 6s!</p>
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<p>20/20 is awesome!</p>
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<p>Windies need 19 off 6. Cue 3 consecutive 6s!</p>
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<p>Edit: 4!!!!!</p>
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<p>Really thought the Windies were toast during that chase but they have players all the way down the order who can hit big. Stokes really contributed in that last over, leg stump half-volleys, no yorkers when he needed only a couple of good ones.</p> -
<p>Great victory speeches. Loved hearing Samuels call out Warne and I loved hearing Sammy call out the WICB and Mark Nicholas.</p>
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<p>Windies take out the mens and womens title. (Windies women thrashed Aussie women by 8 wickets!)</p>
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If you're ever going to lose a final, then let it be to someone smacking 4 consecutive 6s in the final over. Bravo WI, showed in last couple of games, much much more than a one man team.
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<p>Moral victory, no way the BCs would lose to Afghanistan :fishing:</p>
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<p>Heard Samuels calling out Warne, that was good humour but what was the deal with Sammy and Mark Nicholas ?</p> -
<p>WI men and women winning is soo much better then England men and Aussie women winning. Nice job WI :good1:</p>
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<p>The WI men are interesting. Seriously good in the T20s, but crap in the ODIs and tests. AB De Villiers has spoken about it recently, that more and more players will become T20 specialists because that is where the money is, which will hurt ODI and even more so test cricket as players choose BBL/IPL etc over playing tests for their country.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure what the answer to that is. You can't begrudge the players going for the money given how short professional sporting careers are.</p> -
<p>This is worth a read if you like your cricket. Reminder that West Indian cricketers have always chased the money away from their homeland.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/995019.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/995019.html</a></p> -
<p>Women's cricket is really, really shit. It's great that it's getting a bit of exposure this year, and having their games as the curtain-raisers in the World Cup and Big Bash is a really progressive initiative.</p>
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<p>But it's never going to take off as a mass spectator sport. It's slow bowling, crap fielding and small hitting on fields with 40m boundaries. </p>
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<p>As for the guys, well done to the Windies, a hell of a way to win it. But i am not surprised they won, their T20 side is packed with talent, there are enough guys there who can go big that they can cover for the fact that half of them will fail every game. And their best players play enough T20 they should be fucking guns at it.</p>
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<p>My tournament highlight was how silent the ground was at the end of the Windies v India semi. That was awesome. </p> -
<p>Yeah. If Australia weren't going to win, then I was happy as long as India didn't.</p>
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<p>Samuels calling out Warne was funny as fuck. But victories like this for Marlon are to ignore that he never capitalised on prodigious talent. That's why people mark him hard I think.</p>
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<p>It doesn't excuse in any way Warne's utter boganity.</p> -
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<p>Women's cricket is really, really shit. It's great that it's getting a bit of exposure this year, and having their games as the curtain-raisers in the World Cup and Big Bash is a really progressive initiative.</p>
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<p>But it's never going to take off as a mass spectator sport. It's slow bowling, crap fielding and small hitting on fields with 40m boundaries. </p>
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<p>As for the guys, well done to the Windies, a hell of a way to win it. But i am not surprised they won, their T20 side is packed with talent, there are enough guys there who can go big that<strong> they can cover for the fact that half of them will fail every game</strong>. And their best players play enough T20 they should be fucking guns at it.</p>
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<p>My tournament highlight was how silent the ground was at the end of the Windies v India semi. That was awesome. </p>
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<p>In the shorter form it is a similar principle to the OZ team of the mid 2000s, my mate and I used to catch up over summer for a few beers and loved watching that team play cos you could guarantee two or three of that top seven would get big hundreds, a couple would fail but the rest would chip in enough for the inevitable mammoth total.</p>
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<p>Teams in this tourney feared Gayle obviously but a couple of other top order batsmen really kicked arse when he failed ( as inevitably happens in cricket )</p> -
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<p>Yeah. If Australia weren't going to win, then I was happy as long as India didn't.</p>
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<p>Samuels calling out Warne was funny as fuck. But victories like this for Marlon are to ignore that he never capitalised on prodigious talent. That's why people mark him hard I think.</p>
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<p>It doesn't excuse in any way Warne's utter boganity.</p>
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<p>Yeah I have a feeling Warne may sit a bit higher in the echelon of cricketing greats in years to come than Samuels will.........</p> -
<p>And if Warne was anything but a gigantic chav, he'd be right up there with the gentlemen of the game.</p>
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<p>As it is, we can only admire his ability to bowl, and some of the women he's ploughed.</p>
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<p>His ex-wife - not bad for three kids through that, and mid-40s (also fairly boganish).</p>
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<p>Women's cricket is really, really shit. It's great that it's getting a bit of exposure this year, and having their games as the curtain-raisers in the World Cup and Big Bash is a really progressive initiative.</p>
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<p>But it's never going to take off as a mass spectator sport. It's slow bowling, crap fielding and small hitting on fields with 40m boundaries. </p>
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<p>I reckon that is changing as more real athletes come into the game - the Windies have some players who can clear the fence and not just the boundary rope and they also have strong arms in the field. Reading that article I posted above Matthews, who scored the runs in the final, picked cricket over track and field. Once there is money in T20, the standard will rise fast I reckon as it becomes a career choice.</p>
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<p>NZ Women really seemed to lack athletes in the team - plenty of plodders in the field. The Windies basically won that semi-final by consistently turning 1s into 2s and running singles when hitting straight to a fielder in the circle.</p> -
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<p>I reckon that is changing as more real athletes come into the game - the Windies have some players who can clear the fence and not just the boundary rope and they also have strong arms in the field. Reading that article I posted above Matthews, who scored the runs in the final, picked cricket over track and field. Once there is money in T20, the standard will rise fast I reckon as it becomes a career choice.</p>
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<p>NZ Women really seemed to lack athletes in the team - plenty of plodders in the field. The Windies basically won that semi-final by consistently turning 1s into 2s and running singles when hitting straight to a fielder in the circle.</p>
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<p>I agree with that. Some of our women are now earning around 6 figures for sport with endorsements, and while they'll probably always lag behind the men, making it a career instead of a hobby is massive.</p>
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<p>I can't begin to imagine how you'd nail down a fulltime job interview with "by the way I need 12 weeks off a year to play and train cricket!" if you didn't have any other income.</p> -
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<p>And if Warne was anything but a gigantic chav, he'd be right up there with the gentlemen of the game.</p>
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<p>As it is, we can only admire his ability to bowl, and some of the women he's ploughed.</p>
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<p>His ex-wife - not bad for three kids through that, and mid-40s (also fairly boganish).</p>
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<p>She needs to practice the resting bitch face more then she'd have fewer wrinkles round the forehead.</p>
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<p>I genuinely feared the West Indies might disintegrate as a cricket team (it might still happen...) but what a start to 2016 it has been!</p>
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<p>U19 World Champs</p>
<p>Mens T20 World Champs</p>
<p>Womens T20 World Champs</p>
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<p>Is T20 the future for minnow nations now? You don't need the same level or depth of talent, the cash and TV ratings are there, and you can actually win some silverware. And I am including the Windies in that minnow category, as their test side is atrocious.</p>
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<p>Why would a young WI/Afghan/Banga/Zimbo cricketer want to play test matches? You earn fuck all to get the shit kicked out of you. </p>
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<p>Is T20 the future for minnow nations now? You don't need the same level or depth of talent, the cash and TV ratings are there, and you can actually win some silverware. And I am including the Windies in that minnow category, as their test side is atrocious.</p>
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<p>Why would a young WI/Afghan/Banga/Zimbo cricketer want to play test matches?<strong> You earn fuck all </strong>to get the shit kicked out of you. </p>
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<p>I wonder if Tests will just become the domain of Aus/Eng/Ind/SA and maybe NZ/Pak/SI. </p>
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<p>How much is "fuck all" exactly ?</p>
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<p>A guy like Jason Holder would be snapped up by a T20 side surely ? he seems to want to bring his team back to the glory days though, hard to see that happening in his era though......</p>
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<p>How much is "fuck all" exactly ?</p>
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<p>A guy like Jason Holder would be snapped up by a T20 side surely ? he seems to want to bring his team back to the glory days though, hard to see that happening in his era though......</p>
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<p>you put us in the "maybe" category too, ouch Barbarian, ouch.......</p>
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<p>Well the word was that top Pakistan and WI players were making less than 100k a year, some as little as 60k.</p>
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<p>And as for NZ in the maybes, that was more about opportunity than ability. The 'big four' get a consistent supply of big-ticket test series, both at home and away. Unfortunately NZ seems a bit starved for content, especially longer series against the World's best.</p>
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<p>I could see why NZ players might start to see T20 as a more consistent and lucrative career choice.</p>
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