2021 Māori All Blacks
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@canes4life he's out for the season i think
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@kiwiwomble hopefully back for the NPC then.
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With such logjam of loosies in the AB mix i'd expect to see Akira released to play for Maori ABs allowing ABs to get a look at other loosies (Blackadder etc).
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@stargazer Good timing for me, as I'll be up in Wellington for the marathon that weekend so definitely will head along to that. Never been to a rugby game there either (only been to a football game there).
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It will be interesting to see if he goes back to Wellington. In an article in April, he said his provincial future was still to be sorted out.
"His provincial future is up in the air but he is signed up with the Highlanders until next year."
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@southernmann i would be very happy to hear he'd signed with Otago
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@kiwimurph said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
With such logjam of loosies in the AB mix i'd expect to see Akira released to play for Maori ABs allowing ABs to get a look at other loosies (Blackadder etc).
After his efforts in black last season, I expect he will be given first crack this year.
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The 2021 squad has been named:
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Māori All Blacks Coach Clayton McMillan has named a strong squad ahead of their two-match series against Manu Samoa.
It will be the first time the sides have met since 2008, with matches at Sky Stadium in Wellington (June 26) and an exciting double header alongside the All Blacks and Tonga at Mt Smart in Auckland (July 3).
The squad features two debutants, 21-year-old Waikato and Chiefs prop Ollie Norris along with Otago and Highlanders loose forward Josh Dickson.McMillan is joined in the coaching group again by Roger Randle and for the first time, Chris Gibbes, from the Hurricanes.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/established-squad-announced-for-maori-all-blacks-campaign/
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I am always surprised to see some of the new players who have Maori ancestry.
Guarantees that Lomax will be in the AB squad.
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@bovidae said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
I am always surprised to see some of the new players who have Maori ancestry.
Guarantees that Lomax will be in the AB squad.
And I guess it precludes a few that were fringe as well, unless injury strikes. Not many loose forwards!
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@bovidae said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
I am always surprised to see some of the new players who have Maori ancestry.
Guarantees that Lomax will be in the AB squad.
I don’t get why this team is named before the All Blacks.
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@gt12 Maybe because their first game is on June 26. Perhaps they will add a couple of players once the AB squad is named?
Edit: There is the bare minimum of hookers, halfbacks and loose forwards. And where does TJP fit in?
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I'm surprised not to see Zarn Sullivan there, unless he's a surprise AB inclusion.
I assume ABs will supplement the squad even when named in the ABs.
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@bovidae said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
@gt12 Maybe because their first game is on June 26. Perhaps they will add a couple of players once the AB squad is named?
Edit: There is the bare minimum of hookers, halfbacks and loose forwards. And where does TJP fit in?
So name the All Blacks earlier.
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@bovidae said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
@gt12 Maybe because their first game is on June 26. Perhaps they will add a couple of players once the AB squad is named?
Edit: There is the bare minimum of hookers, halfbacks and loose forwards. And where does TJP fit in?
Fullback also. Two half-fullbacks (Stevenson/Trask) make one.
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@bovidae said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
@crucial Ioane is also an option at fullback.
May not be if Black's injury amounts to something.
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Preparation for the first game against Manu Samoa is going to be compromised anyway with a large number of the squad involved in the SR TT final this Sat. There will be a few dusty heads after the weekend and they likely only assemble on Monday.
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From that article:
It’s unlikely the Māori All Blacks will play any overseas games at the end of the year, so the two games against Samoa, at Sky Stadium in Wellington on June 26 and a double header alongside the All Blacks v Tonga at Mt Smart Stadium in Auckland on July 3, will be it for 2021.
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@nepia said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
I'm surprised not to see Zarn Sullivan there, unless he's a surprise AB inclusion.
I assume ABs will supplement the squad even when named in the ABs.
Curious that all the outside backs are from the Chiefs. You could hardly say that Stevenson or Trask were in-form.
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@tim said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
@nepia said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
I'm surprised not to see Zarn Sullivan there, unless he's a surprise AB inclusion.
I assume ABs will supplement the squad even when named in the ABs.
Curious that all the outside backs are from the Chiefs. You could hardly say that Stevenson or Trask were in-form.
Slim pickings really. CGB would have been nice to have.
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@tim It may have to do with the fact that the Chiefs have most Māori outside backs. There aren't that many in other squads. I can only think of Connor Garden-Bachop (injured), NMS (hardly played), Bryce Heem and Zarn Sullivan at other franchises (not including Rieko and Dmac, who'll be with the ABs).
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Skipwith-Garland was used as a winger last year, which shows that the options are limited.
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TTT and Poihipi are the backs from last year's initial squad that have missed out.
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@stargazer Nankivell had a broken hand. After checking, Fletcher Smith was also in the squad but wasn't in the 23 that played.
1.Pouri Rakete-Stones, 2.Ash Dixon (captain), 3.Josh Hohneck, 4.Isaia Walker-Leawere, 5.Manaaki Selby-Rickit, 6.Whetukamokamo Douglas, 7.Billy Harmon, 8.Liam Messam, 9.Bryn Hall, 10.Otere Black, 11.Sean Wainui, 12.Quinn Tupaea, 13.Billy Proctor, 14.Shaun Stevenson, 15.Kaleb Trask.
Substitutes: 16.Kurt Eklund, 17.Ross Wright, 18.Tamaiti Williams, 19.Ethan Roots, 20.Mitchell Karpik, 21.Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, 22.Rameka Poihipi, 23.Mathew Skipwith-Garland
Wright was a late replacement for Renata.
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Not suggesting he should make the All Blacks, but does that exclusion of Heem from this squad suggest he could be in the running?
He's been playing well, and I would've thought he'd be there ahead of Stevenson and Lowe.
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@bobily2 said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
Not suggesting he should make the All Blacks, but does that exclusion of Heem from this squad suggest he could be in the running?
He's been playing well, and I would've thought he'd be there ahead of Stevenson and Lowe.
Ugh I hope not
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Heem is on the wrong side of 30.
McMillan is being loyal to those players that have served him well in recent seasons. I have no problem with that.
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Is Heem Maori? I thought he was PI.
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@bovidae said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
Heem is on the wrong side of 30.
McMillan is being loyal to those players that have served him well in recent seasons. I have no problem with that.
Short period of time to work stuff out as well.
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taniwharugbyreplied to Stargazer on 16 Jun 2021, 04:50 last edited by taniwharugby 16 Jun 2021, 04:51
@stargazer yeah he did his hammy in the NPC semi final.
@Bovidae I dont think Ross Wright has even played for Wellsford this season yet.
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@nepia said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
Is Heem Maori?
He's not.
https://www.teaomaori.news/akl-itms-bryce-heem-takes-field-against-former-team
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@nepia said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
Is Heem Maori? I thought he was PI.
I was going to say "I don't know" (I named him more as someone who could be), but @Bovidae has already answered the question.
So even fewer outside backs to choose from.
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@stargazer said in 2021 Māori All Blacks:
The 2021 squad has been named:
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Māori All Blacks Coach Clayton McMillan has named a strong squad ahead of their two-match series against Manu Samoa.
It will be the first time the sides have met since 2008, with matches at Sky Stadium in Wellington (June 26) and an exciting double header alongside the All Blacks and Tonga at Mt Smart in Auckland (July 3).
The squad features two debutants, 21-year-old Waikato and Chiefs prop Ollie Norris along with Otago and Highlanders loose forward Josh Dickson.McMillan is joined in the coaching group again by Roger Randle and for the first time, Chris Gibbes, from the Hurricanes.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/established-squad-announced-for-maori-all-blacks-campaign/
So Pari Pari Parkinson won't be an All Black in July. He's been consistently good this year and I thought his frame and power could have been useful for the AB pack.
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