Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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@Donsteppa I also feel sorry for all the kiwi fans who descended on Melbourne en masse, complete with beige kit etc when we finally get the holy grail Boxing Day test, and this is what they got for their cash. Fucking rubbish.
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Well it's been disappointing and we could have done a bit better with the bat, but to be honest we're just miles outgunned in the bowling department.
So while the batsmen are being given the stick, in my view it's more in the bowling that the difference lies - when they bat and when we bat it just looks like two different games. You have people like Head and Paine looking comfortable and finding it easy, while people like Rossco and Kane are being worked over.
We're bringing CdG in as first change and they're bringing Starc.
It's unfortunately something we've seen in Oz on numerous occasions including last time we were here.
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Well it's been disappointing and we could have done a bit better with the bat, but to be honest we're just miles outgunned in the bowling department.
So while the batsmen are being given the stick, in my view it's more in the bowling that the difference lies - when they bat and when we bat it just looks like two different games. You have people like Head and Paine looking comfortable and finding it easy, while people like Rossco and Kane are being worked over.
Yep. And actually i'ts a combination isn't it - our 1 and 2 bowlers haven't got wickets, despite bowling really well at times. It's sliding door stuff - pick up a couple of quick wickets and the game is quite different. Then going in to bat after 10 hours in the field is just really really hard.
I'm disappointed in the decision to bowl after winning the toss. Really frustrating, I can kind of understand why we did it, but then bowling Blundell and Santner instead of Wags was unfathomable.
Ah well, hindsight eh. Winning at home is what a lot of teams to. It's winning away that's hard. Play these aussies a year ago and it's a different story, different side and we're more competitive.
Still really frustrated and disappointed though, feels like we didn't get our best selves out there.
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Could have opened the bowling with Santner and bowled Latham first change - bowling lineup is almost irrelevant when the batsmen can't get an innings total above 170.
Though I've always been 50/50 about CdG being the official first change ahead of Wagner.... the extra swing being traded off for a bigger drop in pace I guess...
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@nzzp Yeah - it all compounds.
We really, really needed Kane to do the same as Latham and bat for a few hours - take the shine off the ball, a bit of sting out of the bowlers - and then it gets easier for the batsmen to follow.
I think that one thing we've seen is how much e.g. Henry Nicholls has been the beneficiary of batting behind Latham, Williamson and Taylor (and decent Jeet) over the past few seasons.
Anyway, that's the prescription for the second innings - we've simply got to have our best batsmen survive the first 30-40 overs.
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Sporting declaration from Paine.
Aussies risking that it'll head to Sydney one match a piece and all to play for!
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Anyway, that's the prescription for the second innings - we've simply got to have our best batsmen survive the first 30-40 overs.
It's hard to argue with that for any innings - lose your top 6 in the first 40 overs and the innings will probably be a failure.
Agree that the failure of our bowlers to take wickets has been painful in this match. The biggest symptom of that was Blundell bowling - he's a wicketkeeper, and if we're having to resort to that, someone else needs to be replaced.
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@Chris-B when you have a look our options then we are always going to be outgunned in bowling by what must be the best bowling attack in World Cricket. However they work their plans and can keep us in the game. But the batsmen who were all talked up (Except Jeet) prior have collectively failed in 3 innings in a row. If the batsmen were that good one or more of them would have stood up but they haven’t. Some were picking a bunch of NZ batsmen in their combined teams. So bowlers have performed to expectations bar spinning whereas batsmen todate have been disappointing. Though not all is lost and they have another chance today 🙏.
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NZ to win at $26!!!
I declare 29 December to be Patriots Day!
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Another poor error by an NZ batsman.
Poor ball to get out to.
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@KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Another poor error by an NZ batsman.
Poor ball to get out to.
Total lack of discipline from a guy who should know better
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The fuck was that?
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For all deserved hype about Wagner working out Smith, Williamson is one who has fallen over this series....
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Erasmus favours Aus with every single call he makes.
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Another shit call goes against us with same umpire.
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Its not a shit call.
Its our batsman who is in shit form.
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@No-Quarter Yeah that was a poor one - even though he just gets an umpire's call. Looked to be going down leg live.
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That is a bad beat. Barely touched the stumps on Hawkeye, didn't look out
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Taylor plays a ball he shouldn't have. And pays the price
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Thanks for coming.
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NZ to win is at $151 but I think they've closed the tote!
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NZ’s so called top order batsman need to hang their heads in shame. An absolute joke with the mental ability of an orange.
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Disaster. Bad decisions from Batsmen, unlucky with Umpire calls.
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Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
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@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
After both finishing not out 100 to finish the English series too. So fucking cruel to Black Caps fans.
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@KiwiMurph said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Its not a shit call.
Its our batsman who is in shit form.
It was a bit of both. He's hardly giving the batsmen the benefit of any doubt for a ball that's barely tickling the leg stump on the inaccurate ball tracker.
But Kane walking across his stumps and missing a fairly straight one is 100% a shit shot, once again.
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
After both finishing not out 100 to finish the English series too. So fucking cruel to Black Caps fans.
It's back to the Black Craps
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@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
After both finishing not out 100 to finish the English series too. So fucking cruel to Black Caps fans.
It's back to the Black Craps
Kind of. In the past we've built up our expectations based on absolutely nothing but fantasies in our heads.
But this time our expectations were not mis-placed, we've been genuinely excellent the last few years and we'd just put away England easily with our big guns playing well. We had every right to go into this series talking a big game, and holy shit what a fall from grace it has been.
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
After both finishing not out 100 to finish the English series too. So fucking cruel to Black Caps fans.
It's back to the Black Craps
Kind of. In the past we've built up our expectations based on absolutely nothing but fantasies in our heads.
But this time our expectations were not mis-placed, we've been genuinely excellent the last few years and we'd just put away England easily with our big guns playing well. We had every right to go into this series talking a big game, and holy shit what a fall from grace it has been.
The way our batsmen in particular have rolled over has been galling
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@Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Damo The TAB odds on us winning have come in from $56 earlier this morning to $41 - so you've obviously hit it hard!
Those three wickets have evened things up again.
I think even the most optimistic supporter would have to say that Aus are probably favourites now.
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@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
After both finishing not out 100 to finish the English series too. So fucking cruel to Black Caps fans.
It's back to the Black Craps
Kind of. In the past we've built up our expectations based on absolutely nothing but fantasies in our heads.
But this time our expectations were not mis-placed, we've been genuinely excellent the last few years and we'd just put away England easily with our big guns playing well. We had every right to go into this series talking a big game, and holy shit what a fall from grace it has been.
Bit premature lads.
This game still has 5 sessions to play. Let's wait until the end before we rush to hasty judgement.
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@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
This game still has 5 sessions to play. Let's wait until the end before we rush to hasty judgement.
That Coromandel green is some good shit ey?
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@Damo said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@canefan said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@No-Quarter said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Donsteppa said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Taylor about as useful Williamson this series, a terrible time for them both to have a very poor series
After both finishing not out 100 to finish the English series too. So fucking cruel to Black Caps fans.
It's back to the Black Craps
Kind of. In the past we've built up our expectations based on absolutely nothing but fantasies in our heads.
But this time our expectations were not mis-placed, we've been genuinely excellent the last few years and we'd just put away England easily with our big guns playing well. We had every right to go into this series talking a big game, and holy shit what a fall from grace it has been.
Bit premature lads.
This game still has 5 sessions to play. Let's wait until the end before we rush to hasty judgement.
Well they're unlikely to score another ~410 runs in those five sessions are they?
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