Aaron Smith naughty boy?
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Although I do think that behaviour deserves a reprimand if on official AB duty etc.
Agree once the story breaks it's an issue, agree it's an issue (on AB duty) even if no story breaks.
But I am most disgusted at the intrusive, callous and pervy behaviour of the 'outraged' content sellers.
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@Crucial said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Just to show how fucked the media is, Reason's penchant for being contrary has meant that he has actually written a sensible article for once.
Reasons article is actually brilliant, I'm shocked.
In other news is "disappointed" the new "outraged" ? Pretty sure I've heard more than a few people express this emotion today......
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This thread is stating to risk taking our print media far too seriously.
Sir Bob Jones wrote a great column recently lamenting it and essentially predicting the demise within three years of most of it - including the Dom Post from memory.
He seems to (rightly) be a fan of NBR as one of the last places of sensible/non-sensational reading left, though he had great fun in poking the borax at Matthew Hooten's flight of fancy (Greg Loveridge to run for Labour)
I'd be concerned if the media stories reflected any conversation that I'd had with anyone today... and they didn't.
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Everything for clicks and viewers, I guess.
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@Rapido yep, sorry state of affairs (no pun intended)
I agree, he made a very dumb decision, and deserves to be reprimanded, but all the vitriol on social media, sorry, our mainstream media (blurred line sorry) is way out of proportion.
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@Donsteppa said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
This thread is stating to risk taking our print media far too seriously.
Sir Bob Jones wrote a great column recently lamenting it and essentially predicting the demise within three years of most of it - including the Dom Post from memory.
He seems to (rightly) be a fan of NBR as one of the last places of sensible/non-sensational reading left, though he had great fun in poking the borax at Matthew Hooten's flight of fancy (Greg Loveridge to run for Labour)
I'd be concerned if the media stories reflected any conversation that I'd had with anyone today... and they didn't.
Don't worry, the media thrives on the fact that there is PC folk everywhere who will take as much offence as they possibly can and create a big song and dance about it ( I'm actually offended Justin Beiber is touring here, is there a bandwagon I can get on ? why won't anyone listen to me for once ? ). Sounds like you're just lucky you don't have to associate with them and they aren't the type who frequent forums like this and instead them and their ilk clog up Facebook, Stuff etc with inane self righteous shit just cos that livens ups their pathetic lives.
The fern is WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY cooler and above all that of course.
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@MN5 haha while not the worst article i read about it today, that's pretty fucking poor.
"hey man, want some free advertising for your firm? Just say some inane shit that fits my narrative, and everyone knows anyway, and I'll name drop the fuck out of you, and call you an expert"
"sweet deal. Sponsors don't publicly like negative publicity. Ask them, they'll tell you"
"fuck, great idea!"
"hey weetbix, this has got to fuck you off aye?"
"yea nah bro, going to take something more than this to alter our perceptions"
"shit... but my expert said you would be fucked off!"
"well he's obviously quite the expert"
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I see the full Bob Jones article is behind the paywall, but Whale Oil has cited some of it as per:
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/10/bob-jones-on-matthew-hooton/
"Despite my comments, I love newspapers and specially the Dom. But I give it maybe five more years due to the short-sighted Fairfax cost-cutting destroying all their publications. The latest newspaper circulation figures show it suffered a disastrous 14.4% drop in sales last year. Every newspaper is experiencing steady drops but none as bad as that. Staff lay-offs have become a regular feature of late. These sackees are being mopped up by the Weather Office where their creativity has proven a boon to the forecasting department. The sole New Zealand exception is The National Business Review, which alone deservedly enjoyed a growth in sales.
Still, when it comes to fiction-writing, nothing surpasses NBR’sMatthew Hooton’s July effort headed “Bob Jones’ right-hand man set to save Labour.” Over a full page it described how Greg Loveridge was to be the next Labour leader. Apparently he was about to abandon his $9 million Auckland home and recently acquired $3.5 million Waiheke week-ender and shift to Wainuiomata for God’s sake, to pursue Trevor Mallard’s seat, as a first step to taking over the Labour leadership. Hooton backed all of this with an extraordinary NBR radio interview in which he outlined this virtually as a fait-accompli.
We assume that the basis for this unbelievable fiction-writing was that after returning from Cambridge university, last century take note, Greg did a short stint at Parliament in Trevor Mallard’s office, which experience put him off politics for life. As for joining Labour, an embarrassing assertion as he considers the party an anachronism, the likelihood of that is significantly less than the Catholics demanding I become the next Pope. Mind you, if Hooton wants to write that, and on his form it certainly wouldn’t surprise, then I shall graciously acknowledge it’s a possibility.
Greg is a healthy bugger but imagine if he wasn’t and dropped dead with a heart attack after reading this garbage. Reasonable people might argue this would mean about six years for Matthew following a manslaughter conviction. But I believe an excellent case could be made for a murder conviction and if this was Texas, a death sentence.
Within a decade there may be no daily newspapers. Future generations will read of these past reporter creative endeavours with disbelief. Waugh’s Scoop, for half a century after publication, in an age when reporters read books, was firmly established as journalism’s bible, with its tales of havoc-causing fictional news creations. Hootonism and Scoop in the eyes of a more naïve future generation, will be wrongly categorised with Gulliver’s Travels or H G Wells’s Time Machine and The Invisible Man, as imaginative fantasy.
I, however, shall exploit this situation. Mass tourism has brought the evolvement, particularly in Europe, of specialist museums targeting tourists, who by their third day in a historic city, are bored witless and wondering what to do next. On my observation the most popular museums are those with a macabre theme, such as medieval torture instruments and the like. In that horror category will be my museum of journalist outrages with the first room explaining what a newspaper was to younger visitors. Matthew’s effort will justify a framed photo in the fiction-writing room; nothing more given it lacked malice. If he aspires to be immortalised with a statue at the entrance, he’ll have to do better than that."
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The only real crime here is that they used a toilet clearly marked for the Wallabies
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The leg spinner Greg Loveridge?
He's done well.
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@Rapido said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
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@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Rapido no no, 5 mins of shaming him and NZR.
Although they did show 2 grainy images of him and her as well.
So 5 minutes of slut shaming and shaming the NZR.
Yeah, that's what I was angling at.
5 minutes of slut shaming Smith, and the inconsequential (to them) girl he was with, and publicly humiliating Smith's partner.
In an attempt to shame/emabarass the NZRU because that's trendy at the moment.
Colour me unimpressed.
I feel huge sympathy for the girlfriend. Being cheated on is shitty enough, but this is the lead fucking story on the national news, and in just about every newspaper around. She can't escape it. I mean fuck me days, even the PM is commenting. Poor woman.
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@Mokey yep, I guess there is the saving grace our media havent (yet) stooped to asking her for an interview!
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@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Lead story for 5 minutes on One News!
Glad they sent the camera man to Christchurch Airport for a 2 sec clip of the toilet, after seeing that I have changed my opinion, I think we should hang Smith
I unfortunately missed Seven Sharp which apparently was going to provide all the answers to our questions about the scandal. Personally, I knew quite enough already.
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@hydro11 coverage of this far outweighs the 'crime'
Even my kids got sick of hearing about it on the news, I mean trying to tell kids it is important to watch the news and find out whats is going on around the world and of the 20 mins of supposed news, 5 is that, then the go over it in thier headlines, then 7 sharp said they were looking at it (that I also did not watch)...WTF.
I guess it must mean the world is at peace right now that this is the such a huge issue.
Rugby player is an egg, lets lead with it!
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@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Mokey yep, I guess there is the saving grace our media havent (yet) stooped to asking her for an interview!
They would if they could find her.
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I just looked at the Herald's rugby page.
I'm counting 15 articles on this.
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The media reaction is completely over the top to say the least but to do that in the toilet at an airport in your All Black kit is pretty bloody ordinary to say the least. It is pretty shit that he puts himself, his partner and the team in this position.
Richie needs to phone in and lay the smack down.
Tew must be tearing his hair out.
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Has anyone asked who the fuck listens to hear what noises are coming out of toilets ?
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OK, I can live with the preferential parking, the benefits and the roomy toilets (with their nice soft seat) but now I find out that the red button on the wall calls a hot nurse for a BJ? I am OUTRAGED.
I demand a button like that in all public conveniences.
And in my loo at home.
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Someone asked me if the girl involved in the incident will ever be named.
Of course I replied, but it won't be until next Thursday morning....
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@kiwiinmelb said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Has anyone asked who the fuck listens to hear what noises are coming out of toilets ?
What kind of human garbage records it?
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@Unite said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
The media reaction is completely over the top to say the least but to do that in the toilet at an airport in your All Black kit is pretty bloody ordinary to say the least. It is pretty shit that he puts himself, his partner and the team in this position.
Richie needs to phone in and lay the smack down.
Tew must be tearing his hair out.
What a stupid comment, plenty of dumb shit happened under Richies watch too.
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@jegga said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@kiwiinmelb said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Has anyone asked who the fuck listens to hear what noises are coming out of toilets ?
What kind of human garbage records it?
By far the person that comes across as the dodgiest in this is the weird fucker that stood outside a toilet door with his phone recording the noises within.
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@MN5 said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Unite said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
The media reaction is completely over the top to say the least but to do that in the toilet at an airport in your All Black kit is pretty bloody ordinary to say the least. It is pretty shit that he puts himself, his partner and the team in this position.
Richie needs to phone in and lay the smack down.
Tew must be tearing his hair out.
What a stupid comment, plenty of dumb shit happened under Richies watch too.
Fair enough, the Richie comment was not serious, and your right shit did go down during Richie's watch.
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@Unite said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@MN5 said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Unite said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
The media reaction is completely over the top to say the least but to do that in the toilet at an airport in your All Black kit is pretty bloody ordinary to say the least. It is pretty shit that he puts himself, his partner and the team in this position.
Richie needs to phone in and lay the smack down.
Tew must be tearing his hair out.
What a stupid comment, plenty of dumb shit happened under Richies watch too.
Fair enough, the Richie comment was not serious, and your right shit did go down during Richie's watch.
Damn right, Aaron ain't got shit on Sione Lauaki and Zac Guildford
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@MN5 said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Unite said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@MN5 said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Unite said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
The media reaction is completely over the top to say the least but to do that in the toilet at an airport in your All Black kit is pretty bloody ordinary to say the least. It is pretty shit that he puts himself, his partner and the team in this position.
Richie needs to phone in and lay the smack down.
Tew must be tearing his hair out.
What a stupid comment, plenty of dumb shit happened under Richies watch too.
Fair enough, the Richie comment was not serious, and your right shit did go down during Richie's watch.
Damn right, Aaron ain't got shit on Sione Lauaki and Zac Guildford
To be fair neither of those two were senior All Blacks...
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This was pretty poor judgement by Smith; not because he cheated, because that is a matter between him and his missus (and it's not like people don't cheat every day), but he's in the AB colours basically on company time. And yes the person who made the recording is a real piece of human detritus so it's bad play all round
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Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.
Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
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Well, I am going to overreact to the overreaction and take the moral high ground over the people on the moral high ground. Shameful display of prudish douchbaggery from a lot of people. The human garbage who recorded it (well said Jegga) needs to be publicly flogged and the people "outraged" need therapy. The mothers who whine, "How am I going to explain this to my kids?", I quote CK Louis, " I don't know, It's your shitty kid. Why is that anyone else's problem?".
I am embarrassed that NZ is acting just like Murica did when Janet's boob fell out. When is consensual sex between adults a social issue?Aaron....you personally fucked up big time, was a bit of an arse to desperate disabled people, and got a few demerit points professionally but that is nothing to do with me. Good luck.
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I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
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@Canerbry said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I'm sure he sprayed it everywhere, doesn't know when to use the box kick.
And I'm sure she's extremely grateful for that. No way she's walking out smiling otherwise.
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Can't wait to see what developments there's been about Quickiegate overnight ,
NZs a small place and I'm really hoping " he's the guy that stood outside the toilet recording the bonking noises" follows the deadshit for the rest of his life . Aaron Smith will be remembered for his deeds on the field and at best a " boys will be boys " chuckle about his antics in the toilet while Google never forgets and this clown will be known as a grub forever .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Has anyone asked who the fuck listens to hear what noises are coming out of toilets ?
Luuuv the sound of someone having a decent crap. NOT.
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@jegga said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Can't wait to see what developments there's been about Quickiegate overnight ,
NZs a small place and I'm really hoping " he's the guy that stood outside the toilet recording the bonking noises" follows the deadshit for the rest of his life . Aaron Smith will be remembered for his deeds on the field and at best a " boys will be boys " chuckle about his antics in the toilet while Google never forgets and this clown will be known as a grub forever .
He was probably fascinated as his missus appears so prudish that she only does it with the lights turned off and keeps deadly silent incase someone thinks she is enjoying it.
I'm actually hoping someone identifies them and follows them everywhere they go in public recording their every move.
They have just placed themselves on a high horse and deemed themselves holier than others. A bit of scrutiny in their direction may be warranted.
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They'll be outed and regret this for s loooooong time. Sonny Shaw went public after an altercation with Jerry Collins, turned out he was a convicted rapist . This clown stands outside toilets recording the sounds of people fucking, any other grubby behavior that emerges is a bonus. And let's face it anyone who hangs around public toilets is bound to have a few skeletons rattling around in his closet.
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@Tordah said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
Assume it'll be the Adidas thing?
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I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
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@Tordah said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
The Germans were probably outraged there was no poo involved, despite it taking place in a toilet.
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