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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It ain't bloody hard to register with a Dr.
Wanna bet.
If you move around a lot or live in areas where doctors are oversubscribed it can be very difficult. Even when some can afford to go to the doctor they can't find one to go to. Why do you think hospital EDs get filled with minor stuff?
When we came back from the UK and had to re-register we were nearly forced to have to go to a Dr 10kms away in order to find one that would register us and had to push our local (and previous clinic) to take us.well that differs completely from my experience last year back in NZ after a lengthy time away, I just walked into a clinic in PN with no issues, also had my aussie kids (yeah, that hurts to say) see DR's without any hassle?
try that in Auckland with intensification and see how you go.
Edit: @Crucial is right - it isn't easy
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Genuine question, what are the reasons being put forward by Maori for low vax rates? Other than higher rural locations, what are the features of the "white approach" that are preventing them from keeping pace? In that entire article all I saw was some vague reference to wanting to go as a family.
Numerous factors. Some are ones @MN5 mentioned.
The overall MÄori rate is dragged down by an age bracket in the 20s. As a generalisation this group contains many manual wage workers and or beneficiaries in higher %s to the overall population and are spread around the country. The comments about not being planned to take this into account were valid in that proportionally they were affected more by the early expectations of using online services, being registered at doctors, being able to travel to vax centres etc.
All reasons that occur across groups but it should have been recognised that a different approach was required for this group if it was to not be left behind. Those different approaches have already made up a lot of ground once implemented.
The same issues aren't as obvious in the Pacific Peoples group and that young age group. My guess is that as a group the population is heavily Auckland weighted and there is a cultural factor that has spread the message through churches and communities much more efficiently. Culturally I think it is still fair to generalise that young pacific peoples listen to their elders and do as they are told.Wait, what? Are we suggesting now that 20-something manual workers don't know how to use their Iphones?
That's some bullshit right there.
It ain't bloody hard to register with a Dr.
From afar it looks like a pretty shitty excuse to say to the Gov "your approach was too white".
Proof was in the pudding and you have conflated two separate reasons.
Across the broad lower social economic groups have lower rates and there are many and varied reasons for this. As MÄori are represented disproportionately in this group it is simple maths to understand why, as a group they would have lower rates.
The way it is described by a handful of more militant commentators doesn't detract from the facts that the original approach didn't work well and once the flexibility of methods and avenues started, and there was some other ways introduced, there has been a strong turnaround. They are now trying to reach the hardest group they have.
In the past three weeks double vaxxed Maori have gone from 61% to 64%. Big whoop.
Thats about the same rate of increase as other groups. My point was that if they had carried on on the rates they were at before that point the delta would have widened much more. There has been a turnaround in rates not a catch up
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It ain't bloody hard to register with a Dr.
Wanna bet.
If you move around a lot or live in areas where doctors are oversubscribed it can be very difficult. Even when some can afford to go to the doctor they can't find one to go to. Why do you think hospital EDs get filled with minor stuff?
When we came back from the UK and had to re-register we were nearly forced to have to go to a Dr 10kms away in order to find one that would register us and had to push our local (and previous clinic) to take us.well that differs completely from my experience last year back in NZ after a lengthy time away, I just walked into a clinic in PN with no issues, also had my aussie kids (yeah, that hurts to say) see DR's without any hassle?
try that in Auckland with intensification and see how you go.
Edit: @Crucial is right - it isn't easy
Just less diseases in Palmy bro. Clean living folk, living their best lives and not sweating the small stuff
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It ain't bloody hard to register with a Dr.
Wanna bet.
If you move around a lot or live in areas where doctors are oversubscribed it can be very difficult. Even when some can afford to go to the doctor they can't find one to go to. Why do you think hospital EDs get filled with minor stuff?
When we came back from the UK and had to re-register we were nearly forced to have to go to a Dr 10kms away in order to find one that would register us and had to push our local (and previous clinic) to take us.well that differs completely from my experience last year back in NZ after a lengthy time away, I just walked into a clinic in PN with no issues, also had my aussie kids (yeah, that hurts to say) see DR's without any hassle?
try that in Auckland with intensification and see how you go.
Edit: @Crucial is right - it isn't easy
Just less diseases in Palmy bro. Clean living folk, living their best lives and not sweating the small stuff
That's a lie, Palmy has more of the STD type ...
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We've tested the app today as wife has downloaded it for her bizzy. Interestingly it doesnt appear to link to your business etc at all.
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I got my Vaccine pass this morning, was pretty easy and quick to do.
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We got my parents' done today, but it was a bit ridiculous, as each person needs their own email address.
My parents don't have a separate email address and I imagine many country couples don't.
A bit annoying to have to start them a new gmail just for that.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We got my parents' done today, but it was a bit ridiculous, as each person needs their own email address.
My parents don't have a separate email address and I imagine many country couples don't.
A bit annoying to have to start them a new gmail just for that.
Google be loving it
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@mn5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@jk said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Just booked a haircut for thursday. And doubled up on one for christmas eve.
Life is good
Have a look at the âAlternative needed from Stuffâ thread for a good haircut story.
Dunno about good. It's a short story though đ¤
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@mn5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@jk said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Just booked a haircut for thursday. And doubled up on one for christmas eve.
Life is good
Have a look at the âAlternative needed from Stuffâ thread for a good haircut story.
Dont think there anything good on Stuff, its almost as bad as Newshub. Not sure I can bring myself to visit either
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The government don't even know how the vaccine certificates are meant to work. That's a great sign.
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remember how i told you Qld and NZ Gov'ts were the same?
remember this line?
"I donât want to see the people of Queensland get Covid for Christmas"
Guess what lady?
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@anonymous said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The government don't even know how the vaccine certificates are meant to work. That's a great sign.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@anonymous said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The government don't even know how the vaccine certificates are meant to work. That's a great sign.
The untidiness continues
Procrastinating then rushing through important legislation that Hipkins admitted is complicated, because the government isn't willing to keep Auckland waiting anymore? Why do I feel like a convenient excuse all of a sudden?
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@anonymous said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The government don't even know how the vaccine certificates are meant to work. That's a great sign.
MoH hope they will be compulsory (and may believe that to be the preferred option), Cabinet actually decides what will be included in the legal drafting based on health advice but also Crown Law advice (sometimes health advice can't be done legally e.g. banning citizens from entering NZ) and practical considerations (for this particular item, that would mostly come from MBIE and the police, potentially with some advice from DIA as well).
Whatever the final legislative wording, not a good look though.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
We got my parents' done today, but it was a bit ridiculous, as each person needs their own email address.
My parents don't have a separate email address and I imagine many country couples don't.
A bit annoying to have to start them a new gmail just for that.
There are a few options with Gmail without making new accounts - this might be useful for others with older family in this boat. Gmail doesn't differentiate addresses with and without full stops (.) e.g. firstnamelastname@gmail.com and firstname.lastname@gmail.com will both go to the same mailbox. Another option is to add + and another word e.g. name+first@gmail.com and name+last@gmail.com will both go to the name@gmail.com inbox.
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