Gender Pay Equality
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@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
I often wonder why the push for 50/50 representation never seems to apply to primary schools?
I thought it did? I don’t know about right now but for some time there has been a push to get more male primary school teachers.
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@crucial said in Gender Pay Equality:
@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
I often wonder why the push for 50/50 representation never seems to apply to primary schools?
I thought it did? I don’t know about right now but for some time there has been a push to get more male primary school teachers.
Or have I misunderstood?A push - as in no extra benefits or incentives.
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@frank said in Gender Pay Equality:
@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
I often wonder why the push for 50/50 representation never seems to apply to primary schools?
Or sewerage workers......
After 5 years working with the local water authority am astonished at the lack of effort to balance he 100% dominance of male workers at the sewage plants.
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@frank said in Gender Pay Equality:
@crucial said in Gender Pay Equality:
@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
I often wonder why the push for 50/50 representation never seems to apply to primary schools?
I thought it did? I don’t know about right now but for some time there has been a push to get more male primary school teachers.
Or have I misunderstood?A push - as in no extra benefits or incentives.
And no accepting blokes that fail the qualifications?
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@crucial
I got to witness first hand the dressing down of a Male teacher in a primary school by the female principal over the discovery in the unisex toilets of a seat left up and this was in the middle of the main hallwayIt is my opinion that they may "want" more male teachers but they don't all want their values
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@crucial said in Gender Pay Equality:
@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
I often wonder why the push for 50/50 representation never seems to apply to primary schools?
I thought it did? I don’t know about right now but for some time there has been a push to get more male primary school teachers.
Or have I misunderstood?Dunno. Go into any primary school in Aus or NZ and glance at the staff photo board. That'll tell you all you need to know about gender equality as a priority.
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@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
@crucial said in Gender Pay Equality:
@siam said in Gender Pay Equality:
I often wonder why the push for 50/50 representation never seems to apply to primary schools?
I thought it did? I don’t know about right now but for some time there has been a push to get more male primary school teachers.
Or have I misunderstood?Dunno. Go into any primary school in Aus or NZ and glance at the staff photo board. That'll tell you all you need to know about gender equality as a priority.
As the study I posted above indicates, males face discrimination when trying to apply for jobs like that. It's the exact opposite of attempting to achieve quotas the way they are in other areas for females. They don't even get an interview a lot of the time.
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Is that fair though? Are there really as many males studying teaching and trying to be teachers? Is 50% a realistic target?
It's the same in finance, we tried our nuts off to get females into our front office, and constantly battled. There just aren't as many candidates, and tjebknes that are there, have the typical spread of talent that you'd expect.
Having 50% representation in any particular single industry seems to me to be a misguided target
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@voodoo said in Gender Pay Equality:
Is that fair though? Are there really as many males studying teaching and trying to be teachers? Is 50% a realistic target?
It's the same in finance, we tried our nuts off to get females into our front office, and constantly battled. There just aren't as many candidates, and tjebknes that are there, have the typical spread of talent that you'd expect.
Having 50% representation in any particular single industry seems to me to be a misguided target
Yep, there's absolutely no way of achieving 50/50 targets across different sectors. It just isn't possible, because (shock horror) although there is some overlap, males and females have different interests overall. Which is just bloody self-evident if you actually live in the real world, but for some God forsaken reason a bunch of idiots have decided we must achieve 50/50 in roles of their choice (which surprisingly excludes all of the dangerous/disgusting jobs men undertake).
Which was the point of me posting that tweet/article. It isn't discrimination stopping women getting into certain areas, it's just that in a free and affluent society they actually get to pick and choose which jobs they apply for just the same as men.