Best T20 XI - General Chat
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of course there is, but listening to Ponting the other night, apparently the statistics say overwhelmingly that if you lose 3 early wickets you generally lose the game, so there is still huge incentive to take wickets. And one good spell can change a game. It's why good bowlers are still valued.
What needs to change is the mindset. Some days even good bowlers are going to get pumped.
I find myself wondering what would happen to Glen McGrath these days. Putting the ball in the same place over and over is generally a recipe for getting pumped over the rope. You need variation in pace, angle, release point... There is no rocking up and rolling through a spell.
As a bowler, i used to hate it. But now i enjoy watching a guy thinking his way through an over.
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@mariner4life said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
of course there is, but listening to Ponting the other night, apparently the statistics say overwhelmingly that if you lose 3 early wickets you generally lose the game, so there is still huge incentive to take wickets. And one good spell can change a game. It's why good bowlers are still valued.
What needs to change is the mindset. Some days even good bowlers are going to get pumped.
I find myself wondering what would happen to Glen McGrath these days. Putting the ball in the same place over and over is generally a recipe for getting pumped over the rope. You need variation in pace, angle, release point... There is no rocking up and rolling through a spell.
As a bowler, i used to hate it. But now i enjoy watching a guy thinking his way through an over.
The thing that irks me the most is mis hits that go for six. Modern bats and shorter boundaries are a massive part of this happening. Big hitters of the old days like Beefy, Richards and Chris’s dad Lance fucken earnt those sixes far more than guys nowadays.
McGrath is one of the best pace bowlers ever but perhaps his game wouldn’t suit 20/20 nowadays. There’s no shame in that, our boy Wags has never played one for NZ or ( surprisingly ) an ODI.
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@MN5 said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
@mariner4life said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
of course there is, but listening to Ponting the other night, apparently the statistics say overwhelmingly that if you lose 3 early wickets you generally lose the game, so there is still huge incentive to take wickets. And one good spell can change a game. It's why good bowlers are still valued.
What needs to change is the mindset. Some days even good bowlers are going to get pumped.
I find myself wondering what would happen to Glen McGrath these days. Putting the ball in the same place over and over is generally a recipe for getting pumped over the rope. You need variation in pace, angle, release point... There is no rocking up and rolling through a spell.
As a bowler, i used to hate it. But now i enjoy watching a guy thinking his way through an over.
The thing that irks me the most is mis hits that go for six. Modern bats and shorter boundaries are a massive part of this happening. Big hitters of the old days like Beefy, Richards and Chris’s dad Lance fucken earnt those sixes far more than guys nowadays.
McGrath is one of the best pace bowlers ever but perhaps his game wouldn’t suit 20/20 nowadays. There’s no shame in that, our boy Wags has never played one for NZ or ( surprisingly ) an ODI.
if you hit the ball 85+ metres you have fucking earned it.
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Polls are up.
Unsurprisingly there are not too many nominations for this team, so it'll be split into 2x polls.
It's entirely up to the individual on the final make up of their team - ie if you're really mad enough you could fill your team with a keeper and 10 all rounders/bowlers.
The only rules are you must have a minimum of 5 allrounders or bowlers, and you must pick at least one keeper.I'm guessing there will be an obvious 8 or 9 certainties emerge, with a handful of fringe players to make up the final spots, so here is how I plan on finalising the XI:
1x keeper
3x specialist batsmen (one of which can be a keeper if they poll high enough)
5x allrounder/bowlersThis leaves 2 places open for the 'next bests', from either poll. It also allows me to adjust the team for balance - eg we're not going to play 4 spinners for instance.
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@mariner4life said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
of course there is, but listening to Ponting the other night, apparently the statistics say overwhelmingly that if you lose 3 early wickets you generally lose the game, so there is still huge incentive to take wickets. And one good spell can change a game. It's why good bowlers are still valued.
What needs to change is the mindset. Some days even good bowlers are going to get pumped.
I find myself wondering what would happen to Glen McGrath these days. Putting the ball in the same place over and over is generally a recipe for getting pumped over the rope. You need variation in pace, angle, release point... There is no rocking up and rolling through a spell.
As a bowler, i used to hate it. But now i enjoy watching a guy thinking his way through an over.
I'm pretty sure McGrath would have developed a decent array of variations. He was reasonably talented.
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@booboo said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
@mariner4life said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
of course there is, but listening to Ponting the other night, apparently the statistics say overwhelmingly that if you lose 3 early wickets you generally lose the game, so there is still huge incentive to take wickets. And one good spell can change a game. It's why good bowlers are still valued.
What needs to change is the mindset. Some days even good bowlers are going to get pumped.
I find myself wondering what would happen to Glen McGrath these days. Putting the ball in the same place over and over is generally a recipe for getting pumped over the rope. You need variation in pace, angle, release point... There is no rocking up and rolling through a spell.
As a bowler, i used to hate it. But now i enjoy watching a guy thinking his way through an over.
I'm pretty sure McGrath would have developed a decent array of variations. He was reasonably talented.
Pffff. 380 wickets at 22... What did that guy know about short form bowling
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That's actually a really strong team
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@booboo said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
@Gunner said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
Our best T20 XI is pretty conclusive.
McCullum (wk)
Guptill
Munro
Williamson
Taylor
Neesham
Santner
Vettori
Southee
Fergusson
BoultNo Ish? Am surprised. I think.
Agree.
And is Taylor really a great T20 batter?
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@nzzp said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
@booboo said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
@Gunner said in Best T20 XI - General Chat:
Our best T20 XI is pretty conclusive.
McCullum (wk)
Guptill
Munro
Williamson
Taylor
Neesham
Santner
Vettori
Southee
Fergusson
BoultNo Ish? Am surprised. I think.
Agree.
And is Taylor really a great T20 batter?
Form is temporary, class (in the form of mighty blows over cow corner) is permanent.
