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    @booboo Your 12 there is "he who shall never be mentioned" around me (and my father).

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    @Snowy said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    @booboo Your 12 there is "he who shall never be mentioned" around me (and my father).

    Can you mention why?

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    @booboo 1980 (I think) Ranfurly shield challenge. Intercept try. 7 - 3. We left Eden Park in "Stony" silence.

    Back to bloody counselling for me.

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    @ploughboy said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    @Bovidae
    will add some more names for us old buggers
    foxy bennett i think he was still playing when npc started
    hud ricket
    geoff hines
    dick myers
    kevin greene

    My first Waikato game as a kid was in 1980 so the first 3 on that list were stalwarts of that RS team. Add in Koteka and Searancke in the front row. Up and under here we go!

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    @Bovidae myers was on the bench when they won the shield off auckland . george simpkins called himup to add experence. didnt add kiwi as didnt think he should be in mix good player though.

    my team
    bam bam koteka
    gatland
    loe
    ricket
    robinson
    hopa
    monkley
    myers
    greene
    foster
    sivivtu
    ellis
    kahui
    smith
    strawbridge

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    @ploughboy I don't remember Hud Rickit being that great around the field, more just a tall lineout forward. John Fleming was another good lock from that period.

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    @Bovidae to be fair around the park wasnt his strong point but that era that wasnt what they trained for.
    ALB and DMAC proberly should be in team .

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    murray tayler at ten was awesome till he broke his leg never got back to same form afterwards

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    If we have to pick a captain, to me it comes down to Mitchell, Gibbes or Messam. Bennett doesn't make the team ahead of Gatland and neither would Bates.

    It's amazing that Mitchell remains the 2nd highest try-scorer for Waikato with 67. I wonder how many of those were from pushover tries?

    For lock I think you need a power lock to complement Robinson. Anderson, Gordon or Willis.

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    gats could captain team. i would pick willis if we had to go for a power lock. captain has to be a starter pick your best players not your captain and make him a starter.

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    @Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    OK, to get some input from other Waikato fans.

    The front row would be unanimous.

    Choices for other positions:
    Locks - Steve Gordon, Brent Anderson, Mark Cooksley, Keith Robinson, Royce Willis, Jono Gibbes
    Blindsides - Miah Melsom, Richard Jerram, Aaron Hopa, Steven Bates, Liam Messam
    Opensides - Duane Monkley vs Marty Holah
    No.8s - Brian Morrissey, John Mitchell, Deon Muir, Sione Lauaki
    Halfbacks - Rhys Duggan vs Tawera Kerr-Barlow. Kevin Putt, Simon Crabb, Brendon Leonard and Byron Kelleher also in the mix.
    1st 5s - John Boe, Ian Foster, Glen Jackson, David Hill, Stephen Donald
    Midfield - Chris Ellis, Arthur Stone, Matthew Cooper, Rhys Ellison, Scott McLeod, Keith Lowen, Richard Kahui, Anton Lienert-Brown
    Wingers - Bruce Smith (70 tries in 83 games), Bruce Reihana (45 in 81), Roger Randle (50 in 59), Sitiveni Sivivatu (19 in 30), Sevu Reece (26 in 33)
    Fullbacks - Andrew Strawbridge, Daryl Halligan, Matthew Cooper, Todd Miller, Mils Muliaina, Damian McKenzie

    Keith Lowen wasn't alone in that NPC winning midfield...he had a future AB next to him, who at least deserves to make a list featuring Ellis, Lowen and Ellison....

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    @ploughboy said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    gats could captain team. i would pick willis if we had to go for a power lock. captain has to be a starter pick your best players not your captain and make him a starter.

    Fair enough. Honestly, I always thought Mitchell was the least deserving of that loose forward trio to make the ABs. Jerram and Monkley should have made the ABs ahead of him.

    I would happily pick Hopa at 6 and Messam at no.8. I would still select Holah though. 🙂

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    @shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    Keith Lowen wasn't alone in that NPC winning midfield...he had a future AB next to him, who at least deserves to make a list featuring Ellis, Lowen and Ellison....

    The reason I didn't include Regan King was that he only played 23 games for Waikato. The others played 50+, and in some cases 100+. None of them makes my team anyway.

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    I fucked that up anyway. Waikato didn't win the NPC in 2002, did they? But they must have had a good run. I was living in Australia at the time but recall the hype around King and Lowen and Waikato doing well??

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    Updated team:

    1. Koteka
    2. Gatland
    3. Loe
    4. Willis
    5. Robinson
    6. Hopa
    7. Holah/Monkley
    8. Messam
    9. Duggan/Greene
    10. Donald/Jackson/Foster/W Smith
    11. Sivivatu
    12. Lienert-Brown
    13. Kahui
    14. Randle/B Smith
    15. Muliaina/McKenzie/Strawbridge
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    @shark said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    I fucked that up anyway. Waikato didn't win the NPC in 2002, did they? But they must have had a good run. I was living in Australia at the time but recall the hype around King and Lowen and Waikato doing well??

    No, lost to Auckland in the final. 😞 Lowen set up King for a lot of tries IIRC.

    I watched it live from the USA.

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    @Crucial So we are down to our 3rd choice 1st 5 now?

    I'm tempted to go for Wayne Smith as the best option for our backline, not Foster. A game for Waikato B must count! 🙂

    No one will remember Murray Taylor. I don't.

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    @Bovidae said in Ultimate NPC: - Waikato:

    @Crucial So we are down to our 3rd choice 1st 5 now?

    I'm tempted to go for Wayne Smith as the best option for our backline, not Foster. A game for Waikato B must count! 🙂

    No one will remember Murray Taylor. I don't.

    Well if you didn’t poach your 10s from elsewhere you wouldn’t have that problem.
    I have put Foster in at the moment but you can decide a late sub if you want

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