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@mariner4life thats the theory, still doesnt make thier monumental fuck up any easier to take.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life thats the theory, still doesnt make thier monumental fuck up any easier to take.
i understand that, i guess my feelings, and posts, are based more on my position here
We still have new cases every day. But not many, and most are people coming back from overseas. Despite this, state borders remain closed, and there are no flights moving around the country.
yes, increased movement will probably involve some spread, that's inevitable. But, given the numbers we are dealing with, they should be able to be dealt with, especially because i know Aus has a better response ability now than it did in March.
This thing still exists, we have to get used to that. We can't isolate indefinitely.
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@mariner4life no we cant, but these 2 should never have been in a position to spread it is the issue here, we had them in isolation.
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Reading an article about this in the newspaper, the point was made that wearing face masks should be mandatory on all flights for any incoming international arrivals. That would be up to the airlines to enforce but would minimise the risk of infection during the flight and for all staff at the airport before isolation in NZ.
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Does anyone have any faith in the Ministry of Health contact tracing system?
I've only been able to get the app to work on my work mobile. And in about three quarters of places I've been there's no QR code to scan. Shopping centres seem to be especially slack at having them anywhere.
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@Rapido said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I can get to Levin, maybe Waikanae, if not then Pram before I need to refill.
Otherwise it's white nuckle ride down for the last hour on the red line, probably doable, but stressful.
And unless you knew that road like the back of your hand I don't think you would chance not filling up. I've done the trip myself over a dozen times, been in the car with my folks countless more. I always stop once
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
And unless you knew that road like the back of your hand I don't think you would chance not filling up. I've done the trip myself over a dozen times, been in the car with my folks countless more. I always stop once
I guess the theory is, they had a spare fuel can too...it sounds very unlikely, but surely they have been stressed to that lying puts so many lives and jobs in danger...just say we stopped here, was within 2m of the guy pwrking or whatever, means they can start the tracing process now rather than find out in 2 weeks they lied and by then the person/s they came in contact with have already been out in the community.
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So now that I've had time to reflect on this, I'm even more angry at the government.
They took 100% of our rights away for more than a month while they implemented the most draconian lockdown in the world. We all went along with it for the greater good, and we got rid of Covid altogether.
And for what? If the virus spreads again, and based on what we are seeing it seems almost inevitable that it will, what then? We can't go back into lockdown. There was debate about whether the cure was worse than the disease with the first one, if we do it again that will almost certainly be the case.
So what was that lockdown for? What was their long term plan? Close the borders until an unlikely vaccine is created? But then if that was the plan, why are they granting exemptions when it only takes one person to spread it far and wide again?
Or are these politicians so hopelessly out of touch that they think they can just do the lockdown again if need be?
I don't see anything coherent around what our long term plan is for this.
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So now that I've had time to reflect on this, I'm even more angry at the government.
They took 100% of our rights away for more than a month while they implemented the most draconian lockdown in the world. We all went along with it for the greater good, and we got rid of Covid altogether.
And for what? If the virus spreads again, and based on what we are seeing it seems almost inevitable that it will, what then? We can't go back into lockdown. There was debate about whether the cure was worse than the disease with the first one, if we do it again that will almost certainly be the case.
So what was that lockdown for? What was their long term plan? Close the borders until an unlikely vaccine is created? But then if that was the plan, why are they granting exemptions when it only takes one person to spread it far and wide again?
Or are these politicians so hopelessly out of touch that they think they can just do the lockdown again if need be?
I don't see anything coherent around what our long term plan is for this.
I believe their plan is another lockdown, damn the consequences to the economy.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So now that I've had time to reflect on this, I'm even more angry at the government.
They took 100% of our rights away for more than a month while they implemented the most draconian lockdown in the world. We all went along with it for the greater good, and we got rid of Covid altogether.
And for what? If the virus spreads again, and based on what we are seeing it seems almost inevitable that it will, what then? We can't go back into lockdown. There was debate about whether the cure was worse than the disease with the first one, if we do it again that will almost certainly be the case.
So what was that lockdown for? What was their long term plan? Close the borders until an unlikely vaccine is created? But then if that was the plan, why are they granting exemptions when it only takes one person to spread it far and wide again?
Or are these politicians so hopelessly out of touch that they think they can just do the lockdown again if need be?
I don't see anything coherent around what our long term plan is for this.
I believe their plan is another lockdown, damn the consequences to the economy.
that can't be right. They can't be that stupid. No one is that stupid
After the dick waving on the weekend, there is zero chance they would attempt another lockdown. It would be political suicide.
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@Donsteppa Cindy stepping up now I think...
Woohoo, 1 day Covid Free!!
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@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So now that I've had time to reflect on this, I'm even more angry at the government.
They took 100% of our rights away for more than a month while they implemented the most draconian lockdown in the world. We all went along with it for the greater good, and we got rid of Covid altogether.
And for what? If the virus spreads again, and based on what we are seeing it seems almost inevitable that it will, what then? We can't go back into lockdown. There was debate about whether the cure was worse than the disease with the first one, if we do it again that will almost certainly be the case.
So what was that lockdown for? What was their long term plan? Close the borders until an unlikely vaccine is created? But then if that was the plan, why are they granting exemptions when it only takes one person to spread it far and wide again?
Or are these politicians so hopelessly out of touch that they think they can just do the lockdown again if need be?
I don't see anything coherent around what our long term plan is for this.
Wonder what Baron is thinking?
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@Frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So now that I've had time to reflect on this, I'm even more angry at the government.
They took 100% of our rights away for more than a month while they implemented the most draconian lockdown in the world. We all went along with it for the greater good, and we got rid of Covid altogether.
And for what? If the virus spreads again, and based on what we are seeing it seems almost inevitable that it will, what then? We can't go back into lockdown. There was debate about whether the cure was worse than the disease with the first one, if we do it again that will almost certainly be the case.
So what was that lockdown for? What was their long term plan? Close the borders until an unlikely vaccine is created? But then if that was the plan, why are they granting exemptions when it only takes one person to spread it far and wide again?
Or are these politicians so hopelessly out of touch that they think they can just do the lockdown again if need be?
I don't see anything coherent around what our long term plan is for this.
Wonder what Baron is thinking?
Can we let him back on for one day just to read the blistering critique?I don't think he was banned. There were just toys being flung all over the place at not being a mod anymore. Why the F anyone would want that job ....
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Ashley Bloomfield outlines what he's responsible for today:
The Director-General of Health has provided updated information around the two active cases announced yesterday.
“We have always expected that New Zealand would get more cases of COVID-19, especially with more people from overseas coming into the country,” said Dr Ashley Bloomfield.
“COVID-19 remains a serious pandemic continuing to affect many countries. We are not immune to further cases arriving on our shores.
“The risk of spread of COVID-19 from these two cases while they were travelling to New Zealand and in the managed isolation facility they were in is low but not impossible, so we are ensuring all steps are in place to mitigate the risk.
“As Director-General of Health, I have overall system responsibility for the health operations of our self-isolation facilities and exemptions.
“In this instance, these individuals should have been tested prior to leaving the managed isolation facility.
“I am taking responsibility for ensuring this does not happen again.
"We have put in place a number of actions to provide the public and Government assurance that anyone arriving into New Zealand does not pose any risk from COVID-19."
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@Frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
So now that I've had time to reflect on this, I'm even more angry at the government.
They took 100% of our rights away for more than a month while they implemented the most draconian lockdown in the world. We all went along with it for the greater good, and we got rid of Covid altogether.
And for what? If the virus spreads again, and based on what we are seeing it seems almost inevitable that it will, what then? We can't go back into lockdown. There was debate about whether the cure was worse than the disease with the first one, if we do it again that will almost certainly be the case.
So what was that lockdown for? What was their long term plan? Close the borders until an unlikely vaccine is created? But then if that was the plan, why are they granting exemptions when it only takes one person to spread it far and wide again?
Or are these politicians so hopelessly out of touch that they think they can just do the lockdown again if need be?
I don't see anything coherent around what our long term plan is for this.
Wonder what Baron is thinking?
Can we let him back on for one day just to read the blistering critique?He wasn't banned, it was self isolation.
Coronavirus - New Zealand